Latin and Grammar

[paulcindy]

First, if you were to choose a Latin Program for a 10 yo who has never studied it, and a mom who has never taken it, what would you recommend?

And, do you also use a vocabulary program with it, such as Vocabulary from the Roots up, or Vocabulary Vine? Or is that overkill?:confused:

I would assume you still stick with your grammar program as well?

[Deana FL]

We use http://www.livelylatin.com/site/index.php ... and really enjoy it. No previous Latin experience here and I find it easy to use and understandable. Vocab is built in...I don't supplement.

I, also use FLL 4 for our grammar text and it seems to flow very well together. Today, in Latin we talked about Predicate Nominatives and when we went to FLL, we were discussing the very same thing. Doesn't always happen that way, but, for the most part I'm very happy with both!

[Heather in VA]

Hey - didn't I just see you on the grammar post :-). You know you could kill two birds with one stone and just go with grammar that included in Latin.

Two good choices for that are Lively Latin and Latin for Children. Then when she gets a bit older - do Analytical Grammar for the rest of English grammar and usage. That will cover diagramming.

Heather

[paulcindy]

Hey - didn't I just see you on the grammar post :-). You know you could kill two birds with one stone and just go with grammar that included in Latin.

Two good choices for that are Lively Latin and Latin for Children. Then when she gets a bit older - do Analytical Grammar for the rest of English grammar and usage. That will cover diagramming.

Heather


Hi Heather.........LOL. Yup, you just saw me:001_smile:

So, Both of those programs cover English Grammar as well? And Vocabulary?

[amyco71]

We've been happy with Latina Christiana. For a 10 y.o. I would start with LC I. It covers English grammar pretty well and definitely includes English vocabulary, mostly from learning the derivatives of the Latin words being studied. Also it has the student memorize prayers like the Our Father and the Gloria from the Latin Mass. Memoria Press has a good website and forum for people to ask questions, and they have recently gotten a lot better about answering questions on the forum!

[christielee7278]

This was one of my questions as well...that I forgot to ask earlier on another post!!

So with LL, I wouldn't need to get a seperate sentence diagramming workbook for English?? We use Seton English 6 and will be using GWG with my younger son later.

[H.S. Burrow]

We are using Latina Christiana I with the dvds. No previous Latin experience for any of us and we are really enjoying it and increasing our vocabulary - Latin and English - as there are tons of derivatives.

[paulcindy]

So I have looked into all of these. So far, I really like Lively Latin. I even understood it and it seemed fun.

Do most of you who use this order the $125.00 set(EEKS). I would need a pronunciation CD.

I don't know the difference bewteen ecclesties(SP?) and Classical????? Which is easier/better???

Thank you:)

[Deana FL]

http://classicalhomeeducation.com/cart.php?target=product&product_id=568&category_id=142

At the time, I had some kind of coupon code, but still seems like it was about $80, then.

This is the CD set...includes the pronunciation CD. You'll need plenty of paper and ink for your printer. I print chapter by chapter.

As for, classical/eccl pronunciation...it's totally up to you. We do the classical.

[paulcindy]

After you use all the paper and ink(I have a laser printer), is it worth it to print yourself? Or wait, save the money and just buy the set already printed?

[Deana FL]

You figure paying an extra $40 for the hardcopy. I really don't know which way is cheaper. But, it was easier for me to justify spending less initially. This way, it doesn't feel like it costs so much b/c it's spread out. And I figure, I can buy paper pretty cheap from Sam's and my ink isn't too expensive.

So, I don't know for sure. It would be nice to have it all done, so I don't have to think about it. But, I've heard that the hardcopy still needs to be separated into the different sections...so, it might be less confusing to just print as you go.

Sorry, I'm not much help...I'll keep my eye out for coupon codes for ya, though.

[Deana FL]

to check the "used books" section on this board and vegsource.

[Alana in Canada]

Paulcindy--I think Livelylatin would be a fantastic way for you to go, for many reasons.

Firstly, the grammar is top notch. We are in Lesson 14, now, and truly we have learned more grammar in this course than we have in any other. You may want to supplement the grammar taught in LL and apply it to other things you are learning--and other things you find on the web, like worksheets, etc.

Secondly, the latin is extremely approachable and easy to learn. I have no previous Latin experience and except for a few small confusions (inevitable with any curricula) everything has gone smoothly.

Thirdly, Drown's' derivitaves are fabulous. She truly has a terrific vocabulary course, there, too.

Fourthly, there is a history component. One thing I wish I had done was invest in Cindy Shearer's e-guide, http://www.greenleafpress.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=27&products_id=1234

called Famous Men of Rome. Drowns has taken Haaren's book and woven it into her course--it's my son's favourite part and Shearer has taken the same text and written up discussio and study questions for it. Do you see where I'm going with this? Not only can you learn Latin, grammar and history, but you can even work on essay topics and devise a half decent writing course responding to the questions.

You do NOT need anything but a good printer which gets lots of pages per ink cartridge and speakers for the computer. Buy the "internet based" course--it's the cheapest and you get everything. You can play the audio right on your computer. We do it everyday for vocab practice.

I hope this encourages you.

For $56.50 plus a math program, you truly can have your first year of homeschooling all sewn up.

[christielee7278]

Instead of buying the cds, I think I'm going to just use the online pfd.
http://www.livelylatin.com/site/store.htm

...or is it better to purchase the cds?

[paulcindy]

This is really great, thank so much for all of these ideas. Yes, between LL and Math, it would be perfect. :)

I think I will get the CD's and just print it out as I go. Can you play the CD's in a stereo/radio, or are they only made for the computer?

Yes, if you come across a coupon code let me know, and in the meantime I will still check the used boards.

THANK YOU!!:lol::lol::lol:

[TracyR]

LC 1 with DVD's. The DVD's are very helpful. I never studied Latin before and these are great. We've learned a lot.

[plimsoll]

We love Lively Latin. My son is basically teaching himself Latin from this. For grammar we use Junior Analytical Grammar. We also use the Vocabulary in Action series from Loyola Press and Roots of English from Memoria Press. It may be more than is necessary, but it's not really overkill. It looks like this:

Latin - a few pages every day, takes 15-30 minutes
grammar - a lesson a day, takes 15-30 minutes
vocabulary and word roots - alternate every other day, about 20 minutes

[Amy from WT]

Cindy, check out "The Great Latin Adventure" by Classical Legacy Press.

It was just published this past spring, but I know the author and I've been using it in our co-op for four years now. It's WONDERFUL!

Perfect for 4th - 6th graders just starting Latin, Mrs. Birkett takes a different approach to beginning Latin. She only teaches the 1st declension and 1st conjugation in these two volumes. This wonderful way of teaching allows the students to learn a greater amount of grammar and vocabulary and manipulate what they know into longer, more complex sentences by the time they finish the course. And when they finish both volumes, they are ready to attack a higher level beginning Latin curriculum (think Jr. High or High School) with great ease.

The course also spends a great deal of time on derivatives and English word roots. Every chapter has a wonderful "Derivative Worksheet" that will expand your child's vocabulary by miles.

Not only that, it's written so that any parent can teach it easily.

Can you tell I love it? Every family that comes into our co-op and experiences this program for the first time has the same reaction as well. Check it out: www.classicallegacypress.com.

Hope this helps...

[claussenpc]

You can burn your own CDs from the online files!!!!

You can make your own chant CDs also.