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StaceyL in Canada
02-10-2008, 05:05 PM
This year, my gr 10 son has been going through some Shakespeare drama and the book Writing About Literature, which includes short stories, short plays, and poetry. Although he is a strong writer otherwise, lit analysis still seems to stymie him. Next year, he and my next younger son will be gr 11 and 9, and I intend to cover Canadian history and geography (de rigeur here in Ontario for high school). I'm having a hard time, though, deciding on what to cover for literature. There's not a huge amount of high quality, age-appropriate Canadian lit for high school, in my view; but Canadian history is intermingled with both British and American, so which to emphasize if I chose either of these? Would it be confusing to cover, say, British lit (post-Renaissance) for a year, then the year after, backtrack and cover American? Would it be awkward to do American and some Canadian lit before getting to their precursor, British? Or might it be better to cover a mixture in both years, along with some other world lit? I do have at hand Lori D's wonderful "literature smorgasbord" list for American, British, and World, but am uncertain whether to stick with one per year or mix them up.

Also, whenever (hah!) I do decide what to cover, which guides to use (yes, my background is in lit, but I've learned that we only make progress if I have some sort of guide at hand)? Hewitt's Lightning Lit guides take semester each but still don't cover 20th C material; Progeny Press guides, which I like, tend to be lengthy enough that the PP folk suggest covering no more than four a year. Glencoe guides online are shorter but--dang it--no answers, and not very in-depth, with few writing ideas. SparkNotes online provides analysis but few ongoing questions or writing suggestions either.

All this is in terms of the older son; the younger one is nowhere near able to get into lit analysis in any depth, so I would probably be working just with the older (leaving the question open of what to do with the younger....while the 9 yr old hums away in the background.....:confused:)

Chris in VA
02-10-2008, 05:59 PM
This is just an idea, and as a Lit major, you will be able to see where I'm going quicker than I can articulate it--
Could you perhaps take a time period/movement in literature, and read several works within that frame? I'm thinking Romanticism, Naturalism, Transcendentalism, Realism, etc. Pull in the literary elements, use Sparknotes and that old standby, Cliff'sNotes, and discuss the lit you pick in those terms. Comparing and contrasting the different movements can be quite interesting. Using the literary terms to analyse the lit while you are doing so seems to cover all the bases.

StaceyL in Canada
02-10-2008, 06:55 PM
Been keeping you inthought and prayer. Hope things are improved. ??

Thanks for taking the time to reply. Yes, I do know what you mean; I'm just not sure if my grasp og history is strong enough to figure which movement belongs where without guides to assist me (it's been a long time since grad school....) I may use my teacher's edition of Macmillan's English Lit wioth World Masterpieces as a sort of guide/ template. I do seem to have trouble, though, with figuring out how much time it takes these boys to get through any given piece of literature; it always takes far longer than I expect.

Anyhow, if I do end up doing somewhat of a survey of lit from post-Ren onwards next year, to accompany the Canadian history (which will cover mainly 16th-20thC), what to do the following year?

Gwen in VA
02-10-2008, 07:01 PM
Just a thought about using Progeny Press guides.

I too love them but have found them "too" long. Then I started doing what I do with grammar -- going over the material orally with the kids. I began only assigning one paragraph or so of writing a week and then an essay at the end. We really sped up how long it takes to go through a guide, and my kids liked the speedier version SO much better!

StaceyL in Canada
02-10-2008, 08:09 PM
Thanks for the suggestion, Gwen. Doing that would actually kill two birds with one stone: we'd get through a guide faster; and we'd have at least a pseudo-discussion! I will be keeping this idea in mind as I plan. Thanks.

Chris in VA
02-10-2008, 08:13 PM
Hey Stacey,
I haven't done anything with this website, but maybe it will prove helpful. I'm on my way to see ds in jdc--let me know if this proves fruitful, and thanks for your good thoughts.
Literary Movements (http://www.wsu.edu/~campbelld/amlit/litfram.html)