Need curriculum help

[tonygirl]

I posted this in another forum but also wanted it here:)
I have a question about phonics.
My dd almost 9 has LD's ( see sig at bottom) she can memorize word but can barley decode. She scans the pictures to try and figure out words
She doesn't know any phonics rules as of yet. She can tell the sounds of letters cons short and long vowels but doesn't know how to use them. She doesn't know any combination sounds no silent e unless this is a word she has memorized.
Example she has been doing the Read Naturally program this summer at the library. This is what she does she lets computer read it to her completely the 1 st 2 x then the third she reads it a little then the 4th x she's got it word for word she's memorized it. To me that's not really reading:confused: Her spelling is not good either she spells completely phonetically (ex show = shoow does = duz
like = liek pages = paez your = yorr leave = leev chosen + choyen)
I have looked into the Scaredy Cat Reading System the words level and now I ended up looking at Phonics Pathways & Reading Pathways
I need opinions on a good program if not these then others. I don't want a phonics curriculum to jump all around and not teach the rules is the proper order as some do or have words or rules be in the before it's taught. I just need help If any of you have ideas or any suggestions on curriculum please tell me. School yr is coming up fast:ohmy: thank you for listening
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[Ottakee]

There are 2 programs I would highly suggest to you:

http://www.roadstoeverywhere.com/3RsPlusRead.html or www.iseesam.com This is a series of 8 sets of books which take a child from K-mid 3rd grade reading. The books are CAREFULLY sequenced to teach a child to read. They start out with just 5 sounds /s/ /m/ /a/ /ee/ (long sound) and /i/ (the long word I. The child then blends these into I see Sam. Those are the only 3 words in the first 2 books.

There are pictures in the books but the child can NOT "read" the pictures to tell the story. They must say the sounds and then read the word.

They slowly introduce new words/sounds---keeping ones like b and d and p and q far apart from each other. By the end of the series kids can decode just about any word. There is also a LOT of practice on words like was/saw, the/them/that/this---words that look alike when reading.

The first books might look a little babyish for her but she might be fine with them if she thinks of them as cartoons and is actually LEARNING to read with them.

The program is fairly inexpensive at about $250 for the complete 8 sets but you can buy just 1-2 sets to get started and go from there. There is a yahoo group that is very helpful for teaching tips, extra help, support, etc. that is made up of reading specialists, teachers, homeschoolers, etc.

The other program I like to use is http://www.soundfoundationsbooks.co.uk/ The Dancing Bears is a reading program. The CURSOR that they show you how to use is WONDERFUL and cheap (just a notched 3x5 card) and is extremely helpful for the I See Sam program as well. I like to do sets 1 &2 of the I See Sam books and then start Dancing Bears for more drill work. Then after set 4 (ARI 2) of the I See Sam books, start the Apples and Pears Spelling program. It is TOP NOTCH for teaching spelling to kids who struggle.

You can see the entire Dancing Bears program and Apples and Pears program on their website by clicking on the books. I have samples of the I See Sam books I could email you as well.


Both of these programs have placement tests as she might not have to start at the beginning of each of these.

[tonygirl]

There are 2 programs I would highly suggest to you:

http://www.roadstoeverywhere.com/3RsPlusRead.html or www.iseesam.com (http://www.iseesam.com) This is a series of 8 sets of books which take a child from K-mid 3rd grade reading. The books are CAREFULLY sequenced to teach a child to read. They start out with just 5 sounds /s/ /m/ /a/ /ee/ (long sound) and /i/ (the long word I. The child then blends these into I see Sam. Those are the only 3 words in the first 2 books.

There are pictures in the books but the child can NOT "read" the pictures to tell the story. They must say the sounds and then read the word.

They slowly introduce new words/sounds---keeping ones like b and d and p and q far apart from each other. By the end of the series kids can decode just about any word. There is also a LOT of practice on words like was/saw, the/them/that/this---words that look alike when reading.

The first books might look a little babyish for her but she might be fine with them if she thinks of them as cartoons and is actually LEARNING to read with them.

The program is fairly inexpensive at about $250 for the complete 8 sets but you can buy just 1-2 sets to get started and go from there. There is a yahoo group that is very helpful for teaching tips, extra help, support, etc. that is made up of reading specialists, teachers, homeschoolers, etc.

The other program I like to use is http://www.soundfoundationsbooks.co.uk/ The Dancing Bears is a reading program. The CURSOR that they show you how to use is WONDERFUL and cheap (just a notched 3x5 card) and is extremely helpful for the I See Sam program as well. I like to do sets 1 &2 of the I See Sam books and then start Dancing Bears for more drill work. Then after set 4 (ARI 2) of the I See Sam books, start the Apples and Pears Spelling program. It is TOP NOTCH for teaching spelling to kids who struggle.

You can see the entire Dancing Bears program and Apples and Pears program on their website by clicking on the books. I have samples of the I See Sam books I could email you as well.


Both of these programs have placement tests as she might not have to start at the beginning of each of these.

I looked at these and was a little interested in the second one you mentioned. I am having trouble doing the placements tests for it though.
I know she may know some of the words they ask about just because she has memorized it but in my opinion that doesn't mean she actual knows how to read those words. I need help in doing the placement tests have any suggestions? SAs far as Scardefy Cat Phonics Reading System amd Phonics Pathways are these not good choices for my dd??

[Ottakee]

Since you can look at the complete program on line, I would have her do a page or 2 here and there in the book and see how she does. They throw in a lot of nonsense words and some British words that she might not know. That will help you figure out if she can decode the words or has just memorized them.

Phonics pathways moved too fast for us and threw too much new stuff at them at once for my kids. I have not used the other program.

Ideally, if you could do it, I like the I See Sam books along with the Dancing Bears.