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Kelli in TN
02-01-2008, 09:24 PM
http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2008/html/HB/0200-0299/HB0282IN.htm

How 'bout that?:eek:

Mrs Mungo
02-01-2008, 09:29 PM
1. Wouldn't that be unconstitutional?

2. How could they possibly pay for the expenses involved?

3. That is nuts.

Karen sn
02-01-2008, 09:35 PM
Is this for real?

Kelli in TN
02-01-2008, 09:40 PM
I think it is for real. I think it is unconstitutional and I think it cannot be passed. But wow. Someone actually submitted that.

Volty
02-01-2008, 09:47 PM
This bill is on the road to nowhere but it's too bizaar so there's got to be some sort of story behind it.

Quiver0f10
02-01-2008, 09:47 PM
I am speechless and that's a rare thing LOL.

Kelli in TN
02-01-2008, 09:52 PM
This bill is on the road to nowhere but it's too bizaar so there's got to be some sort of story behind it.

Yeah, I think so too. I googled a number of phrases trying to get something more detailed, but came up empty. All I really found were some blog entries about it and junk like that.

It just kind of blew my mind.

JennifersLost
02-01-2008, 10:12 PM
was that it was some pro-pot person who came up with this. Often people who want to legalize marijuana think that legislation against it is ridiculous. So they say things like, "Why don't we outlaw cookies? People shouldn't be allowed to operate motor-vehicles after they've eaten sugar - it changes their brain chemistry just like pot does."

Or someone who hates anti-smoking legislation, maybe. That kind of thing.

ShelliR
02-01-2008, 10:14 PM
Kelli should we debate this one in Student Congress?:rolleyes:

Kelli in TN
02-01-2008, 10:23 PM
Kelli should we debate this one in Student Congress?:rolleyes:

That might be a good debate! Should we send the link to Judith Ann?

As one who would be refused service in a Mississippi restaurant in the unlikely event that this were to pass, I would prefer to be somewhere else when the debate is going on. I think I would just crawl under the table in shame when someone had to take the pro-bill side.

I am just dumbfounded. I don't think it could ever pass, but I am dumbfounded none the less.

Sophia
02-01-2008, 10:33 PM
Can't imagine restaurant owners would be too happy about it.

Faith
02-01-2008, 10:37 PM
It is for real. It is on the Drudge. Here is the link.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0201081fat1.html

ShelliR
02-01-2008, 10:40 PM
That might be a good debate! Should we send the link to Judith Ann?

As one who would be refused service in a Mississippi restaurant in the unlikely event that this were to pass, I would prefer to be somewhere else when the debate is going on. I think I would just crawl under the table in shame when someone had to take the pro-bill side.

I am just dumbfounded. I don't think it could ever pass, but I am dumbfounded none the less.

I can't help but think that this is a joke....
And NO ONE would want to be on the pro side of this debate..

*anj*
02-01-2008, 10:46 PM
Yeah, and you know what else?

If people get pneumonia from going outside with wet hair, pharmacies shouldn't sell them medication.

And if people don't know how to park their cars and damage them, mechanics should not be allowed to fix their cars.

And if people get tattoos and then regret the decision, it should be illegal to have them covered or removed.

I know that none of these analogies even fit, because we're talking about food, but that bill is equally ridiculous!

Please!

Unicorn
02-02-2008, 12:01 AM
:eek: Thunk! :eek: Oh My! :eek: WOW! :eek:

Mrs Mungo
02-02-2008, 12:06 AM
Are people who are underweight going to be served double portions?

Sandy in Indy
02-02-2008, 02:30 AM
Wow! Words can't even begin to describe how outrageous this is. What a bizarre bill!

gardenschooler
02-02-2008, 02:56 AM
I've heard everything now.

I read some other blogs and articles about it, and apparently the intent is for the proposed bill to be some sort of a 'wake up call' to the increasing obesity rates in MS. I liked this guy's take on it:

http://livinlavidalocarb.blogspot.com/2008/02/mississippi-lawmakers-discriminate.html

MelodyInTx
02-02-2008, 03:27 AM
I feel that this bill is not so much about discriminating against those who are heavy, but instead it gives a wake up call that says "let's take a look at the national obesity rate." I live outside of San Antonio Tx and a few years ago this city was ranked the number one heaviest in the nation. I think it is down to number 3 now. :eek:

Obesity in and of by itself can lead to a person being sick and unable to work. They can end up on disability long term or for life.
Shocking I know but it can and does happen. I am a nurse and I am amazed at the damage excess weight can do to the body: increased blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease, stroke, multiple types of cancer as well as knee or back pain that later leads to surgery. The impact on the person and by extension society as a whole is staggering. :(

I don't really need to look very far for an example. My spouse is about 100-125 lbs over weight. We used to go out golfing, go on walks or go to the movies together. But now with the excess weight he has no energy and we go no where together. He gets winded walking across the room!:eek:

He is now on medication for high blood pressure and high cholesterol.

He was laid off of his job. They of course did not say it was related to his weight, but really, they were fearful that he would have a heart attack or some other event in their shop. A scary proposition.

He has sleep apnea and snores like crazy because the excess weight presses on his vocal cords. In fact, he snores so loudly that he has to sleep in another room so I can get some sleep. Sleep apnea is very hard on the body, holding ones breath over and over again damages the heart.

His knees hurt him daily. He has had shots in his knees. The doc told him that the next time he sees him for pain they will schedule surgery.

On the plus side, the last visit to the md was a wake up call for him. When the doctor started talking surgery, he came to me and asked what could be done, and by divine intervention that very day I had read that Lap Banding was approved for our insurance carrier. So we will be pursueing this avenue for him.

So while I don't agree with discrimmination of a group of people, I would love to see some people be able to be offered hope and help if they need it.

gardenschooler
02-02-2008, 04:13 AM
I just don't think legislation for public humiliation is the help overweight people need. They could put their efforts into a *positive* campaign and public awareness.

Volty
02-02-2008, 04:25 AM
This'd go over well...

"I'm sorry ma'am. According to state law, you're too obese to eat in our restaurant." http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif

Karen sn
02-02-2008, 06:58 AM
Are people who are underweight going to be served double portions?

That's a good point.

nuthouse
02-02-2008, 07:39 AM
I could be refused service from an establishment like Whole Foods, where I could get a cup of soup, and a half a turkey sandwich on whole wheat with a piece of fresh fruit; but no one would stop me from getting two chili dogs, a bag of chips, and a soda from a sidewalk vendor's cart. :eek:

Andie
02-02-2008, 08:39 AM
I just don't think legislation for public humiliation is the help overweight people need. They could put their efforts into a *positive* campaign and public awareness.

The gov't has no business doing either, kwim?

And I can't get this image of flesh-fold pinchers and scales at drive thrus. And are the same people who can't COUNT OUT CHANGE going to calculate BMI to decide whether you get salad or a Big Mac? :eek: Puhleez.

Kelli in TN
02-02-2008, 11:17 AM
And I can't get this image of flesh-fold pinchers and scales at drive thrus. And are the same people who can't COUNT OUT CHANGE going to calculate BMI to decide whether you get salad or a Big Mac? :eek: Puhleez.

So true, so true!!

Like I am going to let some teenager covered in hamburger grease touch me with the calipers. I don't think so!

Kelli in TN
02-02-2008, 11:21 AM
I could be refused service from an establishment like Whole Foods, where I could get a cup of soup, and a half a turkey sandwich on whole wheat with a piece of fresh fruit; but no one would stop me from getting two chili dogs, a bag of chips, and a soda from a sidewalk vendor's cart. :eek:

I thought about that too!

In my family I am the proverbial woman who sings to signify that something is over. And yet, I am probably one of the more careful eaters. My 17 year old eats the best in the family. But I certainly eat much more carefully than my husband.

But he would be allowed to eat his high carb, high fat menu option and I would not be allowed my baked fish and salad because I would be sitting in the car waiting for him?

And that is another thing, this would be whole families that the restaurants would lose because who is going to take Mom out for Mother's Day lunch and then leave her in the car because she is too fat?