View Full Version : Latin Christiana I to Latin Prep I or Latin for Children A?
daisychics
05-09-2008, 09:06 AM
Just curious, we are finishing up Prima Latina this year and going to Latina Christiana I, is it better to go to LCII or go to Latin Prep I or go to Latin for Children A or B?
I just watched the sample DVD for Latin for Children A and I thought the lesson was a bit too much for my ds (are the dvd lessons 20 min?).
What route did you take after LCI? Just wondering because I've seen alot of threads saying LCI is boring. We don't think Prima Latina is boring because we have not seen anything else. Is the LCI dvd like Prima Latina? My original plan after Prima Latina was LCI to LCII - now I'm doubting my decision.
Thanks for your help.
LanaTron
05-09-2008, 09:28 AM
It is very clear, but moves at a pretty quick pace, and might be too much for a younger child.
Why don't you wait and see when you get towards the end of LCI? So, for now stick with your original plan, and only change if you decide you need to after LCI?
womenfly
05-09-2008, 09:49 AM
I'd say LCI is similar to Prima Latina - a list of vocab words; a grammar concept; exercises.
We did not find it boring either - but it's all we've ever known. I've been impressed by what my kids have learned, as well as how the Latin grammar is tying in to and connecting our other English grammar studies.
I think we'll continue with either LCII or Latin Prep next year ...
Have fun!
womenfly
05-09-2008, 09:50 AM
Whoops - I see now that you were asking about the LCI dvds compared to the Prima Latina dvds ...
Sorry. We did not use the dvds - just the books and the cd.
nutmeg
05-09-2008, 11:13 AM
I'd say LCI is similar to Prima Latina - a list of vocab words; a grammar concept; exercises.
We did not find it boring either - but it's all we've ever known. I've been impressed by what my kids have learned, as well as how the Latin grammar is tying in to and connecting our other English grammar studies.
I think we'll continue with either LCII or Latin Prep next year ...
We did PL, are finishing LCI, and will do LCII next year. Personally, we like the routine of vocab words; a grammar concept; exercises. We do use the DVDs, but sometimes fast forward through them, skipping through the l-e-n-g-t-h-y derivatives section.
After LCII, we'll be looking for a new direction. But for now, we are sticking with what is familiar and what works.
daisychics
05-09-2008, 11:43 AM
I'm glad that there are some that like LCI, because I never really saw any problems with Prima Latina, so far. I do like the look of Latin Prep and I like that in Latin for Children it is a magister (someone different).
I'm leaning more towards Latin for Children because you can buy a DVD (more for me than ds :001_smile:). I'll wait until we finish LCI to move to Latin for Children A or B.
frogpond1
05-09-2008, 01:23 PM
if you don't mind dealing with ecclesiastical to classical. I actually like both programs myself.
daisychics
05-09-2008, 01:33 PM
if you don't mind dealing with ecclesiastical to classical. I actually like both programs myself.
I don't mind at all. I did hear a little difference in the pronunciations. It's okay with me. :D I know ds is gonna correct the magister on the DVD.
frogpond1
05-09-2008, 04:32 PM
we like classical because it is easier.
Penny
05-09-2008, 06:54 PM
We're doing Latin Prep Book 1 now (ds and dd both 10 yrs old) and I can't imagine doing this with a 6 yr old. It is not easy, nor is it mostly vocabulary memorization. I think vocab work is much easier, but actually Latin Prep doesn't have that much. The difficulty is in the translation Latin/English and English/Latin. I have a very bright 10 dd and she does do the work well, but still will make declension/conjugation mistakes.
Hope this helps. I think maybe for younger children it is wise to stay away from translation until a little more logical thinking skills develop. Translation is grammar on steroids, so if your child doesn't have a strong base in grammar and/or has any difficulty at all understanding parts of speech, then it is best to wait.
Blessings,
Penny
elegantlion
05-09-2008, 06:59 PM
Yes, according to their website (http://www.classicalacademicpress.com/lfc_primers.html) LFC has Ecclesiastical and classical in all three texts and videos.
Laura Corin
05-09-2008, 09:40 PM
You don't want to use Latin Prep until at least age 9, probably age 10. It moves fairly fast and dives in pretty deeply.
Laura
StephanieZ
05-11-2008, 01:29 PM
For instance, by chapter 2 of LP1, you are determining appropriate declensions for the nouns by identifying the subjects and objects in sentences, as well as identifying a noun that is being addressed. As in "Claudia, the sailor is fighting the farmer." -- the student needs to know that Claudia is the person being addressed (thus vocative case), the sailor is the subject (thus. . .), the farmer is the object (thus. . .). They use all sorts of sentences, rearranging the words in varied orders and you translate both directions -- using the case endings in the latin to identify what part of the sentence each noun is. . . Likewise, you are conjugating verbs from Chapter 1. . . There is also a lot of writing. A couple times each chapter you translate stories that are probably 10-15 sentences long.
My dc are bright, have had a lot of solid (R&S) grammar for years. . . It is easy for my 11 yo (who works at abt a 7th gr level in these areas) and although my almost-9 yo (working on abt a 4th-5th gr level in these areas) is doing fine, he requires plenty of support and encouragement. I even type up some of the longer written exercises to save him some of the laborious copying. I could go a lot faster with just the 11 yo but they like doing it together so we're taking our time. FYI, before starting LP1 this year, my dd11 had done PL & LC1 in the past and my ds8 had done just PL.
We *love* LP and it's perfect for us, but I can't imagine using it effectively with any child under 8 yo unless they were a true prodigy, competent in (abt 4th grade level) grammar and were very comfortable writing a lot (as in 10-50 sentences per day for this subject alone). I'll wait until my third child is at least 8 or preferably 9 to 10 before starting her in LP. (I will probably use Prima Latina with her for a year before going into LP.)
M.A.C.K. Academy Mom
05-11-2008, 02:24 PM
If you just finished up Prima Latina, go to Latin for Children A. Latin for Children does go through much more than Latina Christiana. But LFC gives better, more thorough explanation for the grammar than LC
daisychics
05-12-2008, 08:25 AM
Thank you for posting this. Ds hates to write, most of Prima Latina was done orally. I will probably use LCI (I ordered it already), then decide after that.
For instance, by chapter 2 of LP1, you are determining appropriate declensions for the nouns by identifying the subjects and objects in sentences, as well as identifying a noun that is being addressed. As in "Claudia, the sailor is fighting the farmer." -- the student needs to know that Claudia is the person being addressed (thus vocative case), the sailor is the subject (thus. . .), the farmer is the object (thus. . .). They use all sorts of sentences, rearranging the words in varied orders and you translate both directions -- using the case endings in the latin to identify what part of the sentence each noun is. . . Likewise, you are conjugating verbs from Chapter 1. . . There is also a lot of writing. A couple times each chapter you translate stories that are probably 10-15 sentences long.
My dc are bright, have had a lot of solid (R&S) grammar for years. . . It is easy for my 11 yo (who works at abt a 7th gr level in these areas) and although my almost-9 yo (working on abt a 4th-5th gr level in these areas) is doing fine, he requires plenty of support and encouragement. I even type up some of the longer written exercises to save him some of the laborious copying. I could go a lot faster with just the 11 yo but they like doing it together so we're taking our time. FYI, before starting LP1 this year, my dd11 had done PL & LC1 in the past and my ds8 had done just PL.
We *love* LP and it's perfect for us, but I can't imagine using it effectively with any child under 8 yo unless they were a true prodigy, competent in (abt 4th grade level) grammar and were very comfortable writing a lot (as in 10-50 sentences per day for this subject alone). I'll wait until my third child is at least 8 or preferably 9 to 10 before starting her in LP. (I will probably use Prima Latina with her for a year before going into LP.)
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