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coffeefreak
04-11-2008, 07:43 PM
If you use PLL for 3rd, and Intermediate Language Lessons for 4th, what do you use after? Or would PLL be for 3rd and 4th and ILL for 5th and 6th? I guess I'm asking if it's one year or two years in each book. I'm starting to think I'll buy Rod and Staff and supplement with another program, but I can't decide what that other program will be! :confused:
Thanks for your help!

coffeefreak
04-11-2008, 07:46 PM
OK, duh! I just figured it out, tell me if I'm right.

Primary Language Lessons for 3rd
Intermediate LL for 4th and 5th
Something to be released this month for 6th

Am I right?:hurray::hurray:

Trivium Academy
04-11-2008, 07:55 PM
We're going to use Analytical Grammar after ILL unless we finish it early (in 5th), then I'll consider JAG.

coffeefreak
04-11-2008, 08:04 PM
Thanks Jessica! I was looking at LLFVY and found it to be too light. I saw your review on your blog, and you peaked my interest in PLL :D Thanks for giving me another option (even if it makes my husband crazy!):tongue_smilie:

LindaOz
04-11-2008, 08:04 PM
I think it is intended to be:

Primary Language Lessons: 2nd and 3rd
Intermediate Language Lessons: 4th - 6th.

ILL is really set up to last for 3 years. I am using PLL with my 2nd grader and she is doing the work easily, so it definitely could be started in 2nd. My 4th grader is also doing PLL (but is further on in the book) because she only started it last year and needed reinforcement. It has been excellent for her, and I plan to move her on to ILL later this year.

Is there a book being released to follow ILL? I'd love to know about that!!!

Linda

Trivium Academy
04-11-2008, 08:17 PM
Hillside Education has Lingua Mater (http://hillsideeducation.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=19) which is an updated version of The Mother Tongue (http://books.google.com/books?id=J88AAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=tongue&ei=d___R5CqLJ3AzASCnPyRBw&client=firefox-a) which you can see free at Google Books (yes I linked it). I know some have used "Our Mother Tongue" by Nancy Wilson after ILL (AO suggestions)

SimplyCharlotteMason forum thread about AG & OMT (http://simplycharlottemason.com/scmforum/topic/analytical-grammar-or-our-mother-tongue)

coffeefreak
04-11-2008, 08:24 PM
[/QUOTE]Is there a book being released to follow ILL? I'd love to know about that!!!

Linda[/QUOTE]

This is what I read on Hillside's website:

"The 6th grade portion will be available as a separate text for the 2008-2009 school year. Please check back for updates. We have edited this part of the book more heavily to make it a better transition to our book Lingua Mater 7. The pictures and conversation pieces are updated. The theme of the 6th grade section is “virtues” and contains conversation and composition topics on courage, generosity, gratitude, and obedience, as well as knightly chivalry."

Linda, if I purchase PLL for my advanced 3rd grader, I may start 1/2 way through the book? Do you use anything else for grammar and writing?
Thanks!

Trivium Academy
04-11-2008, 08:31 PM
The TM for ILL is about to be released! :)

LindaOz
04-11-2008, 08:49 PM
Hi Dorinda,

Thanks for the info. It does sound like they are taking the 6th grader portion of ILL and making into a separate and edited book.

If your 3rd grader is advanced then you could definitely start half way through PLL. You may find you do more than one lesson a day - I do that sometimes with my 4th grader. I don't use any extra grammar with PLL, and we don't use another writing program but just add extra copywork in other subject areas, dictation, and written narration.

Just so you know, the grammar portion of PLL is not intensive like you would find in Rod and Staff. It focusses more on correct usage in context and I am comfortable with that for now and will add more intensive grammar later. (My 7th grader is doing AG, and that is really good.)

Anyway, HTH