The curriculum my French tutor chose for next year

[Chez J]

school books:
L'atelier du Langage 6eme Hatier ISBN 9782218934551
Vocabulaire 6eme Hatier ISBN 9782218934896

Reading books:
L'odyssée Belin Gallimard ISBN 9782701149790
Gilgamesh Belin Gallimard ISBN 9782701151496
Le roman de Renard Nathan ISBN 9782091875118
Le royaume de Kensuké Folio Junior ISBN 9782070544974
Sindbad de la mer Folio Junior ISBN 9782070627622
Le col des mille larmes Castor Poche Flammarion ISBN 782071624788


These would be great for the summer:

They use this one where I teach and the kids really like it. Short 4 pages stories with questions. And all the answers are provided in an enclosed booklet:
Lecture silencieuse CM 2 Hachette Education ISBN 9782011163561
you could also take and start with the one for CM1

These two are easy books but she cannot read them from the beginning to the end, she must answer questions every few pages and based on her answers they will tell her where to go and read next.
Une affaire de poison Nathan ISBN 9782091873930
Le sacrilège de la main rouge Nathan ISBN 9782091873824

Computer programs:
Atout Clic 6eme for next year
Atout Clic CM2 for this summer

[Chez J]

She is looking to see if there are answer keys for these two:

school books:
L'atelier du Langage 6eme Hatier ISBN 9782218934551
Vocabulaire 6eme Hatier ISBN 9782218934896

Would love opinions please.

Lesley

PS I am going to change my screen name. Haven't chosen it yet. But, since this message board is searchable by google, I've decided to change my screen name. I'm told it will change my past history as well. So, I'm not going away, just changing names.

[CleoQc]

I have some of the Atout Clic (I don't remember which level, I think it's younger than what you listed) We barely used them. The kids didn't like them much and I thought they didn't add much. YMMV

[Chez J]

Yeah, dd doesn't really like them either. But, tutor says they are designed to align with the national standards. So, is good review for the summer to keep from forgetting what we've learned.

Lesley

PS put in the request for name change. I think only folks on this subforum would notice. But, I don't want to include the screen name in a post with my old name. Otherwise, kinda defeats the purpose of managing google search security. :001_huh:;)

[jld]

Thanks for posting this, especially the reading books. I'm going to look at them . . . :)

[Joan in Geneva]

L'atelier du Langage 6eme Hatier ISBN 9782218934551
...
Would love opinions please.

They're starting to use this series at the local Jr. Hi. though I think it is 5e for 7th grade.

No personal experience. We'll see what our tutor thinks as we'll get it for free since dd has to take their test....

Joan

[Chez J]

Joan or anyone else,

Do you know if the two text books my tutor is planning to use have teacher's manuals with answer keys? If not, do the ones you suggest have them?

I think we are going to have to cut the tutoring this year. Need to save money.

Lesley

[Joan in Geneva]

I think this is the one (http://www.amazon.fr/LAtelier-Langage-6e-Livre-Professeur/dp/2218934760/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1277098964&sr=1-1) for atelier du langage ISBN you posted. I don't see one on Amazon for the Vocabulaire.

On your original thread about changing from the CNED I had posted the livre du professeur for the BELIN books....

Joan

[Joan in Geneva]

here's the one for Vocabulaire on Hatier's site. (http://www.enseignants.editions-hatier.fr/) I see the link does not have much detail. So probably you will have to search for the books individually. Under "rechercher" put "vocabulaire" then 6e and francais...

Joan

[Chez J]

You are such a help! Thanks so much. I'll check them out. Need to order soon so I can get them shipped.

[jld]

I don't know if this would be helpful to you or not, Lesley, but we are using the CEII, CMI, and CMII Chouette books (Hatier) this year with ds11. The answers are in the middle of the book. I don't know if they're as thorough as what you want, but I just wanted to mention it. He also reads French every day. It's certainly not the most demanding program out there, but it seems to do at least an okay job of keeping French in his life, and even improving it a bit.

Good luck whatever you decide.:)

[Chez J]

We have decided to drop the tutor and didn't send dd to the two-week day camp in Montreal. The money just isn't there this year. :(

The tutor and I decided to use the CNED online because it has all the lessons, is written to the student, and has the answers. I can give the evaluations on my schedule, not theirs, which was the big issue for us with the CNED anyway.

I will still get the reading books to use and the Atout Clic CDs.

Joan, I am going to have dd do conjugaisons from this site: http://www.la-conjugaison.fr/. How long should it take to complete a conjugaison for one verb? How many times should I have her repeat each verb? Should I do the repetitions back to back, or go through the list, then start over? I'm thinking whole list then start over. Thoughts?

I also am going to have her complete dictees from this site: (Thanks Cleo!) http://www.ladictee.fr/. It has word lists, sentences and whole paragraphs.

I have made a binder for French with four dividers: CNED Lessons, Dictee, Conjugaison, CNED Corriges. I am thinking we will do one dictee every day along with one CNED lesson. What about conjugaison? One verb a week with just a few minutes each day to complete over five days? Two verbs a week at 2 days each? One verb a day?

Thanks for all the help this summer. Changing curriculum for any subject is hard. It's doubly difficult when the curriculum is only sold overseas and is in a foreign language. LOL!

[CleoQc]

What about conjugaison? One verb a week with just a few minutes each day to complete over five days? Two verbs a week at 2 days each? One verb a day?

The standard way I've always seen is to go tense by tense, first. Then group by group, then verb by verb.
So one month is spent on présent de l'indicatif. One week on ''verbes en 'er'", one week on 'ir', and two weeks on the others. One day would be for the verb 'aimer, then 'manger', then 'chanter', etc..

Or if you have more time, then you can do four verbs to a day, but always grouped in a cognitive way (usually the same rule would apply).

[Joan in Geneva]

I guess the Genevois do it quite differently.

They do the conjugation notebooks with one verb a week starting with 4 tenses in 3rd and 4th grades. I forget exactly when they add the other tenses.

Then in 5th and 6th grades, they do 1 -2 verbs a week using these worksheets that I have only seen here, published by the school system, which give various exercises for the verb and ones like it, eg venir, tenir. I'll try to post a photo if I can find the camera cable.

Since my children started later with more serious verb study, they do the conjugation notebooks from 5-7th grades (see sample photo in this thread (http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173127&page=2)) (sorry the link button is not working correctly this AM). In addition, they used the Cahier de Conjugaison in 6th (dd) or 7th (ds) (see photo of inside of book in this thread (http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177747) and links are in the 1st thread) which uses the group by group approach, and in 7th grade started using the special Geneva conjugation worksheets.

This approach worked well for my children. It depends on how much time you have, what your children know so far, how quickly they learn, what materials you have, etc. Ds3, homeschooled with most subjects in English, got perfect scores in the SAT and AP in 9th grade and he only started his serious study in 6th grade and got a tutor in 7th for 2 hours a week. (He is also a good test taker). He'd been doing worksheets from about 3rd grade and started the conjugation notebook earlier but was not doing it regularly. I think it is an approach that needs to be done regularly with quizzing reinforcement (I never quizzed him before, he just wrote out the 4 tenses) but is methodical and clear. It allows the student to observe the similarities and differences to make their own mental connections instead of just being taught them. I think he was still working on the homemade conjugation notebooks in 8th grade as there were verbs that he had not yet covered.

The Genevois have a list of what verbs are to be taught in what grades.

Just our experience and my dc do have more French exposure in their external activities,
Joan

[Chez J]

Both approaches sound useful. I may do both. :D Maybe one day a week we conjugate by tense, then family like Cleo described. Then, two days we'd work on one verb in all the tenses.

Lesley

PS Our tutor is coming to the states for a quick visit with her family here. She's bringing the reading books and some workbooks. Yea!