Has MFS made an appearance here yet?

[DB in NJ]

Admittedly, my time on these boards is sporadic at best, so if she is here already and I've just missed her, I apologize.

Just wonderin'...

[j.griff]

Not to my knowledge. I don't believe she has any intention of joining. I may be totally wrong though.

[Crissy]

No. She made it pretty clear with a blog post that she wasn't interested.

[mom2abcd]

No. She made it pretty clear with a blog post that she wasn't interested.

Why is that?

[DB in NJ]

Oh, I didn't know. Thanks!

[WTMindy]

I think the whole "hive mind" thing was too much for someone who values their independence like MFS. You can find her at MMV though. I do miss her posts here!

[Crissy]

Why is that?
It seems she takes issue with the "hive" references, and feels that none of us choose to think for ourselves.

[battlemaiden]

It seems she takes issue with the "hive" references, and feels that none of us choose to think for ourselves.

Perhaps she was the troll? Hee, hee. Absolutely kidding. But it seems odd that she would think that. :confused:

And that's all I'm going to say since she isn't here to defend or explain.


Jo

[JFS in IL]

now that you mention her, I do miss her posts. On the other hand...I had not realized she was gone, either, and if she thinks being part of a "hive mind" makes us lemmings or something - :glare:

[PiCO]

I think the whole "hive mind" thing was too much

I find that rather off-putting also. But I didn't get to name the forum. I still like the forum!

[Janet in WA]

Why is that?I'll bet she didn't like the rep thing. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

[Crissy]

Because someone believes I am mischaracterizing MFS' thoughts on the subject of the 'hive', I am sharing a link to her post.

It can be found here. (http://mentalmultivitamin.blogspot.com/2008/01/synonyms-for-1000-alex.html)
My statement comes from this quote, "Employed by scientists, psychologists, and sci-fi writers, this term can be used to describe colonies of social insects, conformity, Buggers, and the Borg collective."

"What is 'unable to think for oneself'?"

"No, I'm sorry. Next player?"

"What is 'hive mind'?"

"Correct."
If I am incorrect in my assesment of her opinion, I apologize, but I think her post speaks clearly.

[PiCO]

It seems she takes issue with the "hive" references, and feels that none of us choose to think for ourselves.

From reading the link below, I agree that she takes issue with the "hive" references but I'm not sure why you draw the conclusion that she thinks "none of us choose to think for ourselves." I did not see where MFS passed judgement on the people in this "hive," as far as I can see she dislikes the "hive" concept.

Most of the blog post is a quote from a 2006 Newsweek article which refers to Jaron Lanier's "Digital Maoism (http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/lanier06/lanier06_index.html)." This is not specifically refering to this "Hive," but is mainly a rant about the new online collectivism, using Wikipedia as an example.

I agree completely with the Newsweek article quoted in MFS's blog post. I almost didn't come back here in large part due to the name ot the forum. I do think the majority of people here think for themselves, I just don't want to be a bee! In the end, I missed the people here too much, so I decided to overlook the name and hive references.

[GVA]

From reading the link below, I agree that she takes issue with the "hive" references but I'm not sure why you draw the conclusion that she thinks "none of us choose to think for ourselves." I did not see where MFS passed judgement on the people in this "hive," as far as I can see she dislikes the "hive" concept.

Most of the blog post is a quote from a 2006 Newsweek article which refers to Jaron Lanier's "Digital Maoism (http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/lanier06/lanier06_index.html)." This is not specifically refering to this "Hive," but is mainly a rant about the new online collectivism, using Wikipedia as an example.

I agree completely with the Newsweek article quoted in MFS's blog post. I almost didn't come back here in large part due to the name ot the forum. I do think the majority of people here think for themselves, I just don't want to be a bee! In the end, I missed the people here too much, so I decided to overlook the name and hive references.

Same here. "Hive mind" grates me big time, and I'm not a fan of online collectivism. I see the board as a source of opinions, but it's a secondary resource for me.

[MelissaM]

I hate the "hive" reference whether or not it's a joke. I like the online camaraderie more though.

[*anj*]

Well, a lot of the bee/hive stuff has been minimized. I mean, the posting levels are still that way, but look up at the top of the screen. The hive that used to be there is gone, and "aka Hive Mind" is really all that's left.

[battlemaiden]

Well, a lot of the bee/hive stuff has been minimized. I mean, the posting levels are still that way, but look up at the top of the screen. The hive that used to be there is gone, and "aka Hive Mind" is really all that's left.

I think of the "hive" reference as ironic. :001_smile:

I rarely visit other online discussion groups, but I can't imagine one that is more diverse in its opinions.

I can't get upset about the term "hive", when the reality is anything but.

Jo

[Laura K (NC)]

this thread would certainly put me over the edge. What started as a innocent inquiry about MFS turned into a MFS-bashing party. That's poor form, especially since she's not here to defend herself.

FWIW, I think the format (ratings based on #of posts, reps) encourages more shallow and frequent posting, more trepidation in voicing objections, and more follow-the-leader rallying, rather than more thoughtful posting. This does not mean (let me repeat: this does not mean) that I think that none of us think for ourselves. That is a whole-to-part fallacy. MFS just said what I did in a more colorful way.

(Sorry, Jenn, I didn't mean for this to appear right under your post. I meant for it to go under the OP's.)

[Crissy]

My intent was certainly not to bash anyone, but to answer a question, and then to clarify my statement with a link to a blog post.

I suppose I took MFS' post from months ago too personally, and therefore my interpretation of her words is obviously much different than anyone else's.

My apologies.

[WTMindy]

this thread would certainly put me over the edge. What started as a innocent inquiry about MFS turned into a MFS-bashing party. That's poor form, especially since she's not here to defend herself.

FWIW, I think the format (ratings based on #of posts, reps) encourages more shallow and frequent posting, more trepidation in voicing objections, and more follow-the-leader rallying, rather than more thoughtful posting. This does not mean (let me repeat: this does not mean) that I think that none of us think for ourselves. That is a whole-to-part fallacy. MFS just said what I did in a more colorful way.

(Sorry, Jenn, I didn't mean for this to appear right under your post. I meant for it to go under the OP's.)

I didn't see any MFS-bashing. In fact, I heard people say that they miss her and her insight. I, along with Crissy, felt a little sting (second time I've used this pun in this situation) at her post because it was a jab at a place where I frequent. I'm OK if she chooses not to hang out here. I still read her blog when I need an Mental Multivitamin. But, I didn't see anyone doing any bashing!!

[Kelli in TN]

I hate the "hive" reference whether or not it's a joke. I like the online camaraderie more though.

"Hive mind" grates me big time, and I'm not a fan of online collectivism. I see the board as a source of opinions, but it's a secondary resource for me.

I almost didn't come back here in large part due to the name ot the forum.

I almost didn't come back here in large part due to the name ot the forum.

Am I the only person who just thought the name was cute and the references amusing and unique to this community?

[Mom2legomaniacs]

Am I the only person who just thought the name was cute and the references amusing and unique to this community?

No you are not. Personally, I am thrilled to be a part of this community. There are some truly awesome people here. People that I would not have ever "known" or run across otherwise. (you included K.!) I think it is kind of cute and not offensive in the least to me. I can see where others may not think the same way, but that's fine. I love the diversity and support given here. A great place for me. My whole family has benefitted from you all giving yourselves like you do. Thanks.

[Plaid Dad]

I don't care for the whole Hive thing either, but (1) I don't pay the bills and (2) it's a pretty minor part of my experience of the boards. I see plenty of individuality here and much less group-think than on other forums I've visited. ::shrug::

[Mrs Mungo]

I don't care for the whole Hive thing either, but (1) I don't pay the bills and (2) it's a pretty minor part of my experience of the boards. I see plenty of individuality here and much less group-think than on other forums I've visited. ::shrug::

I tend to agree. I see a wide variety of opinions on all sorts of topics here. I appreciate that fact. I also think there's greater care for other people's feelings and a greater acknowledgment that other people have a right to a different opinion than you will see on other boards.

eta: I actually think the hive idea is kind of cute and I thought it was a nod to the former board's often-used reference to itself (collectively ;) )

[Sharon in SC]

Am I the only person who just thought the name was cute and the references amusing and unique to this community?

No, you're not. I've wondered the same thing as I've read through this thread. Personally, I've only seen the "hive" term as a loose reference to the commonalities we share as homeschoolers on this great earth. :-)

[PariSarah]

FWIW, I think the format (ratings based on #of posts, reps) encourages more shallow and frequent posting, more trepidation in voicing objections, and more follow-the-leader rallying, rather than more thoughtful posting.

. . . as I've said before, I feel quite the opposite. I ignore the # of posts entirely, and my non-scientific impression is that this format discourages the "ITA. nt." posts that used to be a staple of our board chats on the old forum.

I can't speak for anyone's internal state, so I can't say whether there has been any trepidation, but I sure see a lot of objection-voicing.

[Audrey]

. . . as I've said before, I feel quite the opposite. I ignore the # of posts entirely, and my non-scientific impression is that this format discourages the "ITA. nt." posts that used to be a staple of our board chats on the old forum.


:iagree: And, I would have just left it at that, but I, too, hated the endless string of "ITA. nt" posts. :)

[Susan Wise Bauer]

You know, we only called it that because that's what so many of YOU called the boards. I thought it was funny. Honest. I don't really think I'm an overmind, either.

SWB

[Elaine]

Am I the only person who just thought the name was cute and the references amusing and unique to this community?

No, you're not alone. It doesn't bother me, but those kinds of things rarely do. :001_smile: Life is too short.

[Unicorn]

Am I the only person who just thought the name was cute and the references amusing and unique to this community?

I agree. I thought it was cute, and unlike some who considered the term as referencing a Borg type mentality where we can't think for ourselves, I always considered the "hive" to mean a community of workers who went forth to gather information. Definitely not a single "brain", but a sharing of vast experience and information.

[Apiphobic]

My intent was certainly not to bash anyone, but to answer a question, and then to clarify my statement with a link to a blog post.

I suppose I took MFS' post from months ago too personally, and therefore my interpretation of her words is obviously much different than anyone else's.

My apologies.

No need to apologize, Crissy. You did nothing wrong. Okay, now I'm a little annoyed. Hmmph. :rolleyes:

Oh, I know, I know! Pass the dip de frijoles. :tongue_smilie:

[RebeccaC]

Am I the only person who just thought the name was cute and the references amusing and unique to this community?

Nope that's the way I took it ;) too. I stopped reading Newsweek before 2000 so I am way behind the 8 ball there :D kinda like it that way too.

[Danestress]

You know, we only called it that because that's what so many of YOU called the boards. I thought it was funny. Honest. I don't really think I'm an overmind, either.

SWB

Yes, Mistress.

[Mamagistra]

eta: I actually think the hive idea is kind of cute and I thought it was a nod to the former board's often-used reference to itself (collectively ;) )

Yes...and I'd be more inclined to bristle at a sheep reference or something. ;)

I perceive the Hive Thang to be more in jest, a stab at the preposterous idea that there is any way that we all think alike. It's pretty obvious that we're a diverse group, no? Bee that as it may (LOL) I understand why it might be offensive to some, and that's OK, too.

Now, fear me! ;):lol:

http://musicwarship.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/evil_bee.jpg

[percytruffle]

It is funny and very clever. I am glad you named it the Hive in deference to those on the old boards who originated the use of the term to describe our virtual gathering place. :)

[RebeccaC]

You know, we only called it that because that's what so many of YOU called the boards. I thought it was funny. Honest. I don't really think I'm an overmind, either.

SWB


Bbbbuut Susan, :crying: I thought you were our supreme leader. I just got over the idea that Santa was not real and now this :svengo:

:lol:

[Reya]

Because someone believes I am mischaracterizing MFS' thoughts on the subject of the 'hive', I am sharing a link to her post.

It can be found here. (http://mentalmultivitamin.blogspot.com/2008/01/synonyms-for-1000-alex.html)
My statement comes from this quote,
If I am incorrect in my assesment of her opinion, I apologize, but I think her post speaks clearly.

This is probably a default option that comes with VBulletin, anyhow.

[Crissy]

No need to apologize, Crissy. You did nothing wrong. Okay, now I'm a little annoyed. Hmmph. :rolleyes:

Oh, I know, I know! Pass the dip de frijoles. :tongue_smilie:

Thanks, Stacey, but don't be annoyed on my account. Okay?
I'm in a bit of a funk lately, and saying the wrong thing comes easily. It's necessary that I learn the art of the apology, and quickly!

:D

[Doran]

You know, we only called it that because that's what so many of YOU called the boards. I thought it was funny. Honest. I don't really think I'm an overmind, either.

SWB

It's fine. It's fun! The nickname for a virtual community where I choose to hang out does not shape my life in any significant way, though I might wince a bit if you showed up at your next speaking engagement wearing stripes, wings, and a crown. ;)

Hey, and now that you mention it, isn't being an overmind better than being undermined? LOL!

Doran

[Texas T]

Am I the only person who just thought the name was cute and the references amusing and unique to this community?

No. You're not the only one. I've been frequenting this board on and off for 8 years and the whole "hive" thing has been around for quite a while. I haven't really thought that much about the name.

Teresa

[Doran]

I'm in a bit of a funk lately, and saying the wrong thing comes easily. It's necessary that I learn the art of the apology, and quickly!

:D

IMHO, you didn't say anything particularly wrong. This is just another example of how diverse/divergent and decidedly unhivelike we really are here! Enjoy a glass of something soothing. Relax. Defunk. It will be okay. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/hug002.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)


Doran

[strider]

As a Star Trek fan, I have always found the term "hive mind" to be really funny and not anything I took seriously. :)

[*anj*]

Am I the only person who just thought the name was cute and the references amusing and unique to this community?

Count me as one more person who thought the name was cute and funny because as SWB mentioned we started calling ourselves that first!

[Mama Lynx]

Am I the only person who just thought the name was cute and the references amusing and unique to this community?

No, Kellie, you are not. For Heaven's sakes! I think it is amusing. I come here for the collective wisdom, and to mine information, as well as for the online social aspect. Then I go and do what I darn well please. As I'm pretty sure most of us do. I cannot possibly see the name of the forum, or the whole rep situation, as anything to get worked up about.

MFS had been posting less and less, before the board switch. I am certain that there are other reasons behind her falling participation, and that the board switch just made it a convenient time to take a break.

However, Crissy, I interpreted MFS' blog post as you did.

[Angela in TN]

To me it's like self-depreciating humor, it's alright to make fun of yourself and laugh about it. We all know we are not a bunch a followers or sheep but it's fun to belong to a "hive" a bunch of people you share something in common with (maybe not ALL things) and you can come to the "hive" and just be. I glean so much information off these boards and if that makes me a sheep then..baaaaahttp://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/happy057.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[Mama Lynx]

Argh!! KellI. Kelli. Sorry about misspelling your name. I have a friend named Kellie, and it was automatic.

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

Am I the only person who just thought the name was cute and the references amusing and unique to this community?

Amusing and ironic. More amusing because it's ironic. I've not known many other intentional communities that are less lock-step and hive-like in their thinking. Any, maybe. Especially invisible internet communities.

And most of us take something away from the "collective." Even if it's only camera recommendations or goodwill or saltine toffee recipes or faithful blog readers.

[Susan Wise Bauer]

though I might wince a bit if you showed up at your next speaking engagement wearing stripes, wings, and a crown. ;)
Doran

DARN IT, there goes my convention outfit. OK, back to bluefly.com...

SWB

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

DARN IT, there goes my convention outfit. OK, back to bluefly.com...

SWB

You could carry *anj*'s Really Big Bee Marble in your pocket. For luck, or whatnot.

[sleepy]

now I'm gonna have nightmares! :scared:

[elegantlion]

You know I live in a neighborhood. That doesn't necessarily make me, or anyone else around here, neighborly. It also doesn't strike as someplace you'd call a "hood" either. It's just a name for a place I live.

Likewise, the hive is just a name for a place I frequent. It doesn't define who I am.

[Crissy]

You could carry *anj*'s Really Big Bee Marble in your pocket. For luck, or whatnot.


Is that a Really Big Bee Marble in your pocket or....


Nevermind. :D

[strider]

DARN IT, there goes my convention outfit. OK, back to bluefly.com...

SWB

I guess you'll have to go the Borg Queen route--skin-tight black leather, bald, and with a special machine to take your head off your body. :D

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

Is that a Really Big Bee Marble in your pocket or....


Nevermind. :D

I was debating about telling *anj* she had some really big... er... marbles. But I resisted temptation.

:smilielol5:

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

I guess you'll have to go the Borg Queen route--skin-tight black leather, bald, and with a special machine to take your head off your body. :D

That's a different convention. But I'll bet Cleo could hook you up with a supplier for the outfit!

[Mama Lynx]

That's a different convention. But I'll bet Cleo could hook you up with a supplier for the outfit!

Would it freak the other conventiongoers out too much if we all dressed in black and yellow, buzzed, headed straight for the WTM booth and stayed there all day?

What if we turned a glassy-eyed stare on the rest, and said "Buy the boook, buy the boook, be one of ussssssszzzzzz ..."

Not the marketing plan you're going for? ;-)

"Buy the boooook. Resistance is futile ...."

[Old Dominion Heather]

I guess you'll have to go the Borg Queen route--skin-tight black leather, bald, and with a special machine to take your head off your body. :D

Ooooh... sounds like the Matrix. Cool. Maybe we could all plan to swarm a convention and instead of the WTM buttons, everyone could wear black leather!

I nominate the HEAV :ack2:convention in VA.

[Susan Wise Bauer]

Would it freak the other conventiongoers out too much if we all dressed in black and yellow, buzzed, headed straight for the WTM booth and stayed there all day?

What if we turned a glassy-eyed stare on the rest, and said "Buy the boook, buy the boook, be one of ussssssszzzzzz ..."

Not the marketing plan you're going for? ;-)

"Buy the boooook. Resistance is futile ...."

I am LAUGHING out loud and my husband wants to know why. Oh, golly, I almost wish you guys WOULD do that. We could put it on youtube.

SWB

[Susan Wise Bauer]

Ooooh... sounds like the Matrix. Cool. Maybe we could all plan to swarm a convention and instead of the WTM buttons, everyone could wear black leather!

I nominate the HEAV :ack2:convention in VA.

Heather,

If I thought I'd ever be invited back, I'd be so tempted.

Although I'm not sure that black leather will suit me, four babies down the road...

SWB

[Crissy]

Ooooh... sounds like the Matrix. Cool. Maybe we could all plan to swarm a convention and instead of the WTM buttons, everyone could wear black leather!

I nominate the HEAV :ack2:convention in VA.

LOL! It's only appropriate that I share a past foot-in-mouth episode in this thread, right?

I'd just married into a really big family. One of my many sisters-in-law made a joke about me wearing leather pants for my husband. I laughed and said, "Leather pants?! Aren't leather pants reserved for aging rock stars and hookers?"


http://bestsmileys.com/doh/1.gif


I later found out that her best 'going out' outfit included leather pants.

I have a knack, I tell ya.

[Amy loves Bud]

Crissy, I don't think any apologies are necessary. I read it the same way.:001_smile:

[Old Dominion Heather]

Heather,

If I thought I'd ever be invited back, I'd be so tempted.

Although I'm not sure that black leather will suit me, four babies down the road...

SWB

Wait though until you are ready to go out in a blaze of glory! I can just imagine the collective gasp on the main concourse where those kids are always playing flutes and trumpets.

And about the three kids, it would be fine... you're a runner, right? You stay in shape! I doubt the Civil Air Patrol guys could catch you!
:gnorsi:

[Amy loves Bud]

Am I the only person who just thought the name was cute and the references amusing and unique to this community?

No, Kelli! I did think it funny. It's a great example of antiphrasis.

(I've been reading my Thinker's Thesaurus today. Surely if I were in a REAL hive I wouldn't do that, I'd just write ITA after Susan's post ;).)

[Old Dominion Heather]

Heather,

If I thought I'd ever be invited back...


Oh... wait, I get it now...

Is that because of the 400th anniversary thing? :confused:

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

Heather,

If I thought I'd ever be invited back, I'd be so tempted.

Although I'm not sure that black leather will suit me, four babies down the road...

SWB

Oh, I think with the right cut, black leather covers a multitude of... babies.

[Susan Wise Bauer]

Oh... wait, I get it now...

Is that because of the 400th anniversary thing? :confused:

I'm sure that's not helping....but in fact I got disinvited the year BEFORE. There's a basic disconnect between HEAV and me in philosophy, I think.

But I wish they'd invite my mother back..she really just wants to help parents educate their children. (I do too. But there are some things I feel strongly about that Mom is less concerned with, as long as she can teach kids to read and give mothers the tools they need. Teaching is her passion; she is a real gift to the home school community.)

SWB

[Old Dominion Heather]

There's a basic disconnect between HEAV and me in philosophy, I think.

But I wish they'd invite my mother back..she really just wants to help parents educate their children. (I do too. But there are some things I feel strongly about that Mom is less concerned with, as long as she can teach kids to read and give mothers the tools they need. Teaching is her passion; she is a real gift to the home school community.)

Well, I have always thought that any organization that would voluntarily call themselves "HEAV"... they have a basic disconnect with any thinking person!

That is too bad about them not inviting your mom back, though. :glare: I think it might be worth instigating a coup just for that! How rude!

[Brigitte]

Am I the only person who just thought the name was cute and the references amusing and unique to this community?

I'm with you Kelli. The other implied meanings never even crossed my mind. :001_huh: I tend to take things at face value and try not to read too much meaning into things that are ultimately not very important.

[Robin in Tx]

Don't forget the beehive hairdos - My gray hair would look FAB in one! And we can all wear buttons that say, "SWB Wanna BEE"

Robin

[Old Dominion Heather]

Oh, I think with the right cut, black leather covers a multitude of... babies.

We could do black leather jumpers for the less daring among us. I can just imagine how cool it would be if we all marched down to the Richmond convention center dressed in black leather... I think the jumpers might actually make it more scary! If I saw 100+ women in leather jumpers, I would run! :leaving:

[Old Dominion Heather]

I later found out that her best 'going out' outfit included leather pants.

Sounds like something I would say. My sister and I are always horrified when my mom and her husband head out in leather. And they do... THEY DO.:001_huh:

[Robin in Tx]

Now I am laughing out loud!! Black leather jumpers! And don't forget the homeschooling shoes. Do they come in black leather, too?

Goodness, I can hardly breathe!!

What is the 400th anniversary thing? What did I miss? You can pm me if you'd prefer.

[Old Dominion Heather]

And don't forget the homeschooling shoes. Do they come in black leather, too?


Do you think we could find fake nose rings for everyone? I mean, I am sure there are some here who have their own, but I have a fake one.

[GailV]

We could do black leather jumpers for the less daring among us. I can just imagine how cool it would be if we all marched down to the Richmond convention center dressed in black leather... I think the jumpers might actually make it more scary! If I saw 100+ women in leather jumpers, I would run! :leaving:

Y'know, this is so incredibly twisted. Leather jumpers? I love it! Where do I get one?

[Rich with Kids]

How about denim thongs under the leather jumpers...

[Old Dominion Heather]

Y'know, this is so incredibly twisted. Leather jumpers? I love it! Where do I get one?

Hmmm... They are apparently hard to find. This could be the basic style:

http://www.blair.com/static/images/Product/image2/w53533f.jpg

or this, embroidered with "Very Well-Trained" http://www.shopnational.com/prod_images/pr_images/midsize/pr8682_.jpg

But we would need to find a heckofalot of leather.

[Old Dominion Heather]

How about denim thongs under the leather jumpers...

Sounds scratchy!:001_huh:

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

Hmmm... They are apparently hard to find. This could be the basic style:

http://www.blair.com/static/images/Product/image2/w53533f.jpg

or this, embroidered with "Very Well-Trained" http://www.shopnational.com/prod_images/pr_images/midsize/pr8682_.jpg

But we would need to find a heckofalot of leather.

:smilielol5:

Leather! I can't breathe!!

[Old Dominion Heather]

But we would need to find a heckofalot of leather.

Found it!

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/3/5/1/6/webimg/65165671_tp.jpg

I think it will work.

[Doran]

Found it!

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/3/5/1/6/webimg/65165671_tp.jpg

I think it will work.


Could we please attach a little stinger to the back? I really want to wear a stinger with my leather. If I have a stinger, I don't need no steenkin' nose ring!

Doran

[OnTheBrink]

This is my general opinion and it's not a slam to MFS, but I think people who refuse to post at a site because of it's nickname, or can't see the humor or irony in said nickname, need to get over themselves.

Obviously, people have the right to post wherever they want and for whatever reasons, but personally, I'd rather get my knickers knotted over something more significant than whether the site calls itself a hive or not.

I support her right to post or not post, it honestly makes no difference to me; I just think it's silly to die on that hill, so to speak. But, que sera sera.

[Mama Lynx]

I am LAUGHING out loud and my husband wants to know why. Oh, golly, I almost wish you guys WOULD do that. We could put it on youtube.

SWB

Okay, now I am laughing out loud, because ... can you imagine that on YouTube? I can just see all the anti-homeschooling crowd rushing to use it as evidence that there is just something WRONG with those homeschoolers!

:lol:

[Old Dominion Heather]

Could we please attach a little stinger to the back? I really want to wear a stinger with my leather. If I have a stinger, I don't need no steenkin' nose ring!

Doran

Hey, you can customize any way you want. Sort of like those chopper motorcycles.

[Crissy]

Can we put it to a vote?

This is my suggestion for WTM convention-wear:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/eafalbum/Newhomeschooldresscode.jpg

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

Can we put it to a vote?

This is my suggestion for WTM convention-wear:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/eafalbum/Newhomeschooldresscode.jpg

Dang. I used to look like that. With a butt, but that was my body. Dang.

[Elaine]

Can we put it to a vote?

This is my suggestion for WTM convention-wear:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/eafalbum/Newhomeschooldresscode.jpg

Is the foot tattoo optional? I don't mind the leather but I really do not want a tattoo.:lol:

[WTMindy]

Gasp! Sputter! Choke! Oh my goodness....This is one of the funniest things I have read in a while!!!

Crissy, you are going to have to do some serious photoshop editing if you want to see me in that outfit! But, I think all of us showing up at the convention with those on would be so funny.

And I'm laughing about the marbles.

And the leather (notsomuch laughing about the thongs, though!)

Susan, I have heard both you and your mom speak at different conventions and you are both wonderful, but I think you take after your Dad. I had a great conversation with him at the booth. He isn't afraid to speak his mind.

[Amy in Orlando]

Crissy, I don't think I can pull that outfit off with any authority. But, I will be happy to show up in my pleather jumper (in deference to my vegetarian son), replete with stinger on the back.

If we're going to go the YouTube route, here's an idea? What could be more hivish than an impromptu musical? http://improveverywhere.com/2008/03/30/food-court-musical-music-and-lyrics/

Lots of stuff rhymes with Bauer! and Hive! and Leather! You guys can take it from here.:lurk5:

[LisaNY]

Personally, I really haven't given much thought to the "Hive-mind" theme. I come here to share ideas, learn things, get advice about hs'ing topics, etc. I'm here for the *content* of this board, not any nicknames that might be associated with it.

People have the right to come here, or not, for whatever reason that seems fitting to them. However, I can't help but comment that *if* a person were to stay away due to fear of something as trivial as that, they really, truly need to get over themselves. Sorry, but that's being a tad too arrogant.

[LisaNY]

No, you're not alone. It doesn't bother me, but those kinds of things rarely do. :001_smile: Life is too short.

EXACTLY!!!

[Robin in Tx]

I just *KNEW* someone was going to come up with something like this! I was betting on linksalot to be the first to the draw, though! Congratulations, Crissy - HILARIOUS!

If I showed up in that, though, the only film you'd get for youtube would be of the convention hall clearing out. Quickly.

Robin

[Peek a Boo]

ooh!
I can do that! even after 5 kids!
i noticed the little stinger!
my catwoman outfit isn't leather, but nobody's gonna look THAT close.....

and SWB --you can do it too. I just need a tad bit of spandex underneath, lol.

I'll go for a fake tattoo.

can't make HEAV, but what about Arlington?
They'd probably kick me out, what with their cute color-coordinated dresses....

http://homeschoolbookfair.com/contact-us.html

"SWB Wanna Bee" ...lol!

and LEATHER jumpers???? that's just....wrong.....

Can we put it to a vote?

This is my suggestion for WTM convention-wear:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/eafalbum/Newhomeschooldresscode.jpg

[Mama Lynx]

Crissy, I don't think I can pull that outfit off with any authority. But, I will be happy to show up in my pleather jumper (in deference to my vegetarian son), replete with stinger on the back.

If we're going to go the YouTube route, here's an idea? What could be more hivish than an impromptu musical? http://improveverywhere.com/2008/03/30/food-court-musical-music-and-lyrics/

Lots of stuff rhymes with Bauer! and Hive! and Leather! You guys can take it from here.:lurk5:

:rofl:

The costume! And the musical! I. Am. Dying. Here!

[Peek a Boo]

...and I wanna purse like this:

http://jessperna.com/images/covers/pregnant_bumble_bee.JPG

[pixelroper]

I can't handle this-- :hat: :D:eek::smilielol5::svengo:

[Mrs Mungo]

Well, I have always thought that any organization that would voluntarily call themselves "HEAV"... they have a basic disconnect with any thinking person!

Personally, I've always thought that exact thing. Seriously? Heav? What the heck?


And :lol: at the leather jumper idea AND Crissy's desired uniform.

I think a group of hsing moms in leather getting thrown out of a hsing convention would make great publicity.

[Needleroozer]

Oh my goodness! This is not the thread to be reading at 2:30 in the morning! I keep laughing out loud, and trying not to wake the entire household! What a hillarious riot of a thread this turned out to be!!
:lol::D:rofl::smilielol5::thumbup::laugh:

[Eliana]

You know, we only called it that because that's what so many of YOU called the boards. I thought it was funny. Honest. I don't really think I'm an overmind, either.

SWB

To me it is like many of our other terms - booKs, bean dip, MFS's M&M moments - which don't mean what they seem to mean... they are the shared language of an intimate group, and have resonance separate from or above and beyond their literal meaning...

And, Susan, I think it is sweet that you guys took one of those shared terms and used it to name the boards!

I know, in one discussion some years ago, you took exception to applying the word 'community' to the boards, but I think you *have* created a community here with its own culture, ethos, and terminology. (I have a very strong real-life community, and I would not want to replace that with a virtual one, and it is more complete... but I think 'community' is the only term which can describe what we have here. It is an incredibly diverse community, but, despite our differences in race, religion, nationality, educational philosophy, parenting style, etc there is a tone to these boards which is its own... )

This particular term wasn't one I cared for, but I became fond of it as it became one of those shared references.... and I found it touching that the new boards were named for it.

I don't know how you manage to handle the pressure, the criticisms - especially those based on misunderstandings! - and the sniping... your grace and decency have always amazed me. And yours is the model I struggle to imitate in online communications - I fail miserably, but the attempt is enriching. Since you aren't as visibly here as you were in the beginning, I don't know if everyone realizes how much you shaped the tone here... and how present you were even in discussions you did not join as we tried to make this the place we felt you wanted it to be.

[Colleen]

Oh my goodness! This is not the thread to be reading at 2:30 in the morning! I keep laughing out loud, and trying not to wake the entire household! What a hillarious riot of a thread this turned out to be!!

...until I got to Heather's post with a picture of a perfectly lovely denim jumper (as far as denim jumpers go, that is...) and her comment, "We'd have to find a heckuvva lotta leather, though". Something about that just made me laugh out loud.:D

[elegantlion]

Not a thread to read when you first wake up either! Good thing I hadn't gotten my coffee yet.

To BEE or not to BEE, that is the question. (we just need a bee smilie now)

[GailV]

or this, embroidered with "Very Well-Trained"
:smilielol5:

There's a convention here next weekend. I hadn't planned on going, but now I really, really want to, just in case anyone shows up dressed in black leather.

I guess if enough of us showed up dressed this way there might be some confusion as to what type of convention we're attending. Ahem.

[PiCO]

To me it is like many of our other terms - booKs, bean dip, MFS's M&M moments - which don't mean what they seem to mean... they are the shared language of an intimate group, and have resonance separate from or above and beyond their literal meaning...

And, Susan, I think it is sweet that you guys took one of those shared terms and used it to name the boards!

I know, in one discussion some years ago, you took exception to applying the word 'community' to the boards, but I think you *have* created a community here with its own culture, ethos, and terminology.

Well said, Eliana. I, too, feel part of a community here (even if I don't wanna bee a bee.)

[ELaurie]

Well said, Elaina, as always.

I appreciate the gracious tone you set as well. Unfortunately I am prevented from adding further to your reputation at the moment or I would do so ; )

[Doran]

Can we put it to a vote?


The "Ayezzzzz" have it! I'm in!! I am all over that stinger! :rofl:

Crissy, you are some kind of funny!!!


But, if I may...these shoes should be de rigueur. (I'll never make it through a whole convention in those spikey heels!)


Doran

[Kelli in TN]

Oh my goodness! This is not the thread to be reading at 2:30 in the morning! I keep laughing out loud, and trying not to wake the entire household! What a hillarious riot of a thread this turned out to be!!
:lol::D:rofl::smilielol5::thumbup::laugh:

Or after taking a tad more than the listed dosage of prescription cough syrup. I read about half of the thread, saw Crissy's costume design and then passed out from the cough syrup.

I cannot describe the weird cough-syrup-beehive-induced dreams I had.

[Pencil Pusher]

To me it is like many of our other terms - booKs, bean dip, MFS's M&M moments - which don't mean what they seem to mean... they are the shared language of an intimate group, and have resonance separate from or above and beyond their literal meaning...

And, Susan, I think it is sweet that you guys took one of those shared terms and used it to name the boards!

I know, in one discussion some years ago, you took exception to applying the word 'community' to the boards, but I think you *have* created a community here with its own culture, ethos, and terminology. (I have a very strong real-life community, and I would not want to replace that with a virtual one, and it is more complete... but I think 'community' is the only term which can describe what we have here. It is an incredibly diverse community, but, despite our difference in race, religion, nationality, educational philosophy, parenting style, etc there is a tone to these boards which is its own... )

This particular term wasn't one I cared for, but I became fond of it as it became one of those shared references.... and it found it touching that the new boards were named for it.

I don't know how you manage to handle the pressure, the criticisms - especially those based on misunderstandings! - and the sniping... your grace and decency have always amazed me. And yours is the model I struggle to imitate in online communications - I fail miserably, but the attempt is enriching. Since you aren't as visibly here as you were in the beginning, I don't know if everyone realizes how much you shaped the tone here... and how present you were even in discussions you did not join as we tried to make this the place we felt you wanted it to be.

Absolutely. And I couldn't add to your rep, either. :glare:

[Robin in Tx]

Yes! Thank you, Eliana!

In honor of your wonderful post, I vote we embroider a board euphemism across the fronts of our black jumpers. How about "Got Bookshelves?"

[KidsHappen]

Yes! Thank you, Eliana!

In honor of your wonderful post, I vote we embroider a board euphemism across fronts of our black jumpers. How about "Got Bookshelves?"

Only we would understand the meaning and we could recognize each other in real life. :tongue_smilie:

[KidsHappen]

I love this idea.

I wish they had a smilie for, "I give up." Maybe :001_unsure I just can not seem to get these typos under control. :ack2: I really think that I am losing my mind. :w00t: They are coming to take me away - ha, ha. :laugh: Ok, I am just babbling now. :drool5: I'll take a :chillpill: and move on.

[Old Dominion Heather]

I live this idea

I thought you meant you already had your leather jumper ready!

[WTMindy]

The "Ayezzzzz" have it! I'm in!! I am all over that stinger! :rofl:

Crissy, you are some kind of funny!!!


But, if I may...these shoes should be de rigueur. (I'll never make it through a whole convention in those spikey heels!)


Doran
Hey, how did you get a picture of my shoes!?!?

[Crissy]

Hey, how did you get a picture of my shoes!?!?

How on earth do you cheer in those shoes?! :D

[WTMindy]

How on earth do you cheer in those shoes?! :D

Well, I think when you are as naturally graceful as I am, it just comes easily.

(Um, yah.....this from the gal who NE-VER wears heals lest I trip or sprain something!)