Dumb question about vowels

[mo2]

Is y still considered "sometimes" a vowel? In looking at Phonics Pathways, ETC, OPGTR, etc., when they introduce vowels, they only speak of a, e, i, o, and u. Is this just because they teach short-vowel sounds first?

The reason I'm asking is because I was writing the vowels on a piece of paper to hang on the wall to help dd remember which letters are the vowels, and I couldn't decide whether to include "y" or not.

It's been awhile since I've been in school, and I just want to make sure they haven't changed the way this is taught.... :o

[Mrs Mungo]

In OPGTR it is first introduced as a consonant. However, later it is discussed that it sometimes serves as a vowel. I don't think it's *fully* discussed until lesson 94, which is the lesson on the long i sound. There, it is definitely being discussed as a vowel. Hope this helps!

[Kuovonne]

Y is a consonant when it starts a word: yes, yellow, yak, yawn, etc.
Y is a vowel when it is in the middle or end of a word: gym, mystery, rhyme, thyme, happy, happily, etc.
Y is also part of "vowel teams": joy, say, play, etc.