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sweetsouthern
03-31-2010, 02:11 AM
dd i s 9.5 and doing 4th grade, but wont move forward this year. were struggling in several subjects, one being reading. she is reading judy mooody series and still struggling. her reading is slow, she has to sound out words and then sometimes she just guesses totally not even close to the word.

any ideas for remedial reading with her?? thanks!:lurk5:

Shari
03-31-2010, 07:23 AM
Take a look at Rewards Intermediate. If you do a search on this board, you will find lots of people who've used it successfully. I am currently doing this program with my ds who kind of got "stuck" on multisyllable words.

AngieW in Texas
03-31-2010, 10:23 AM
Your dd is at an age where I would recommend testing. Testing helped me tremendously in finding programs that worked for my dd.

As far as programs go, I also recommend Rewards Intermediate. If that's too much for her, then I would do Phonics for Reading.

The placement test for Phonics for Reading is below. I wouldn't start Rewards Intermediate until she places out of Phonics for Reading. The primary author for both programs is Anita Archer.

I have no idea why they put the placement test in the teacher guides instead of on their website. Here it is:

Start with Subtest A and continue until your child doesn't get the minimum correct score.

Subtest A (lessons 1-13 in PfR#1)
mix pad hit cab dot
hut jet hum cod yet
habit muffin rustic summit
Each syllable is one point. If your child has at least 14 points out of 18, move on to the next subtest.

Subtest B (lessons 14-30 in PfR#1)
less dill moss rack bath
wish lock mesh rust desk
shed thud whip chat ship
crib clam grin plum trim
potluck dentist contest unpack
Each syllable is one point. If your child has at least 22 points out of 28, move on to the next subtest.

Subtest C (lessons 1-12 in PfR#2)
braid beach trait clean soap
shown boast flight spray speech
speedway daydream brightness shadow
Each syllable is one point. If your child has at least 14 points out of 18, move on to the next subtest.

Subtest D (lessons 13-20 in PfR#2)
brave slap smoke wide plate
drive spoke smock flake flat
drainpipe hopeless sunstroke trade wind
Each syllable is one point. If your child has at least 14 points out of 18, move on to the next subtest.

Subtest E (lessons 21-32 in PfR#2)
clerk smart birch torch nurse
sport Carl verse marsh twirl
arcade monarch northern border
Each syllable is one point. If your child has at least 14 points out of 18, move on to the next subtest.

Subtest F (lessons 1-12 in PfR#3)
smooth point grew cause Troy
shampoo turmoil oyster exhaust
unload distrust expand return
teachable(2) extinction preventable(3)
Usually each syllable counts as one point, but "able" is taught as a word-ending, so counts for only 1 point. Everything else is still one point per syllable. If your child has at least 23 points out of 29, move on to the next subtest.

Subtest G (lessons 13-21 of PfR#3)
blouse knight phase sketch quote
southwest dolphin hopscotch banquet
contain handle provide smallest
completely connection glamorous
Each syllable is one point. If your child has at least 24 points out of 30, move on to the next subtest.

Subtest H (lessons 22-36 of PfR#3)
cinch choice strange spool spread
margin sagebrush marshmallow
understood gingerbread homestead
impressive adjustable(3) informally
Usually each syllable counts as one point, but "able" is taught as a word-ending, so counts for only 1 point. Everything else is still one point per syllable. If your child has at least 24 points out of 30, then she can start Rewards Reading.

Link to Phonics for Reading:
http://www.curriculumassociates.com/products/detail.asp?title=PhonicsReading&topic=CR0

Link to Rewards Intermediate:
http://store.cambiumlearning.com/ProgramPage.aspx?parentId=019005486&functionID=009000008&site=sw

Rod Everson
03-31-2010, 12:54 PM
dd i s 9.5 and doing 4th grade, but wont move forward this year. ....Her reading is slow, she has to sound out words and then sometimes she just guesses totally not even close to the word.

any ideas for remedial reading with her?

Hi,

It's been a while since I've posted (too nice outside, I guess), but I see that no one's suggested the possibility of a vision issue yet, so I'll do so. The odds that your daughter is struggling with an undiagnosed vision issue of the sort addressed by a developmental optometrist are quite high, in my opinion. If that's the case, you should consider addressing that issue before spending a lot of time on reading remediation because reading will continue to be quite stressful on your daughter. Essentially, her eyes might not be working well together and she could be getting confusing visual input when she reads. You or your spouse might have had the same experience when in school, as the vision problems tend to be genetic in nature.

My recommendation would be to locate a developmental optometrist in your area and at least get an evaluation done to see if your daughter needs vision therapy. You can find out more if you check out the page titled The Vision Piece (http://ontrackreading.com/the-vision-piece/) on my website at OnTrack Reading. There's also some information there on how to go about choosing a vision therapy center as well as locating any developmental optometrists in your area.

Hope this is of some help.

Rod Everson
OnTrack Reading (http://ontrackreading.com)

Kleine Hexe
04-01-2010, 11:33 PM
I haven't used REWARDS yet.

My ds came up to grade level reading by using Reading Reflex. You can get the book inexpensive from Amazon. If you'd like it planned out for you then you can look into ABeCeDarian which is based on Reading Reflex. I love the program.

choirfarm
04-04-2010, 06:49 AM
dd i s 9.5 and doing 4th grade, but wont move forward this year. were struggling in several subjects, one being reading. she is reading judy mooody series and still struggling. her reading is slow, she has to sound out words and then sometimes she just guesses totally not even close to the word.

any ideas for remedial reading with her?? thanks!:lurk5:
I would second getting a vision screening for tracking and other visual processing issues. Your daughter is the main age of patients that my eye doctor sees. This is when they are having to read over many disciplines and the words get smaller and there are more of them and children with visual issues cannot keep up.

We just finished a year of vision therapy. Here are some things they did : Computer Perceptual Theory and Dynamic Reader (both of which I think you can only get through eye doctors.) They also sent home Brainware Safari.

I remember doing something like Dynamic Reader in high school in my honors class. It highlights the text and makes you read at a certain speed and then you have to answer questions based on it. My daughter took 30 minutes for one 1st grade story (you are supposed to do three in that amount of time) when she started as a nearly 8yo. She could do 2 stories of 2nd grade level when we stopped using it. Now, I bet she could do 3 3rd grade level stories. I need to boot it up again and try.

It might be worth checking it out. Sometimes the phonics is fine. My daughter could tell you the rules and could spell with the rules, but if you gave her a sentence she would get totally lost and fatigued trying to sound out every word and guessing more and more as it went on.

Christine
Christint

Time4tea
04-06-2010, 09:29 AM
While you are waiting for testing results you could try a book called Why Johnny Can't Read. It's probably at your library and has a simple little program in it. While using this book I found my son in the 5th grade lacked basic phonics. I also started him in McGuffy readers. Not sure I would do that again, but it worked. But some sort of easy book that doesn't look babyish.