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Amy in VA
01-23-2008, 02:52 PM
I think I have a feel for it, but I need to explain it to my K and 2nd graders. I definitely understand that beat is the unchanging, underlying "pulse" of a song (right?), but I guess I don't really understand how to explain rhythm.

thank you! Amy

Lady Katherine
01-23-2008, 02:55 PM
A rhythm can be any pattern. A beat is the steady pulse -- the count, the "down beat" -- of each measure.

Amy in VA
01-23-2008, 02:58 PM
Can someone give an example with a well-known kid's song? I just don't know how to explain rhythm. Maybe I still don't quite understand it myself.

Karin
01-23-2008, 03:05 PM
Sure. Mary Had a Little Lamb. It's in 4/4 time. You have 4 beats per measure, but not always 4 notes. For eg, when it's repeating the second and third little lambs you have 6 notes, but 4 beats. The littles are eighth notes, therefore there are 2 to one beat. The rhythm is the pattern the notes of different lengths make. That's the easiest one I can think of. I used to have students learn to march the beat and clap the rhythm to get it, but this isn't always easy for some kids to get.

Rich with Kids
01-23-2008, 03:09 PM
Just watch me dance. If you are a visual learner, it might help you to see a lack of rhythm. :o

Lady Katherine
01-23-2008, 03:11 PM
Sing "Twinkle Twinkle", and clap on each syllable (in all caps):

TWIN KLE TWIN KIL LIT TLE STAR (pause) HOW I WON DER WHAT YOU ARE.

Then sing it again, clapping just on the beat (in all caps):

TWIN kle TWIN kle LIT tle STAR ... HOW i WON der WHAT you ARE.

Amy in VA
01-23-2008, 03:15 PM
Okay, so to use Rich with kids as an example, if she is flailing about dancing to a song, the flailing arms are the rhythm. If she manages to flail in time with the underlying beat, she is in rhythm with the beat. The flailing does not have to hit every single pulse of the beat, but whatever flailing there is (in time with the the underlying beat) is the rhythm. So a song does not necessarily have a consistent rhythm throughout- it can change as the song moves along- as long as it doesn't conflict with the beat.

Is that right?

Rich with Kids
01-23-2008, 04:03 PM
Okay, so to use Rich with kids as an example, if she is flailing about dancing to a song, the flailing arms are the rhythm. If she manages to flail in time with the underlying beat, she is in rhythm with the beat. The flailing does not have to hit every single pulse of the beat, but whatever flailing there is (in time with the the underlying beat) is the rhythm. So a song does not necessarily have a consistent rhythm throughout- it can change as the song moves along- as long as it doesn't conflict with the beat.

Is that right?

"Conflicting with the beat" describes my style of movement perfectly! :D

Jean in Newcastle
01-23-2008, 04:11 PM
If you're coordinated enough, you can have the kids stand and step to the steady beat of the song - then clap the rhythm of the song. I'd try it by myself first though, I can only step the beat and clap the rhythm to pretty simple songs!