Game: Are you Normal?

[GothicGyrl]

I will not give you the answer to this for a few hours. I want to see the responses. It is very simple, do not over think it and put the first thing that comes to your mind.

A woman goes to a funeral and meets someone. She instantly falls in love with him but leaves the funeral forgetting to exchange information with him. Later, she goes home and kills her sister. Why?

I await your responses. You will be surprised at mine.


:lurk5::lol:

[CookieMonster]

She goes home and kills her sister.

:confused: What? Why?

I don't get it.

[PariSarah]

. . . there will be another funeral and she can see him again?
Is he the pastor, undertaker, funeral director?

[Miss Peregrine]

So she will get to go back to the funeral home?

[Remudamom]

Because she knows the guy will show up at her sister's funeral. I've heard this one before but I can't remember it all.

[GothicGyrl]

I will not say the answer, not yet. I can tell you this: I am in shock at two of the answers. :) And you will be as well.

hehhehehe..

Aww Remuda--you ruined it. :( You gave the answer.. man.....

But I will still wait for a few minutes.. I want honest answers though.. don't say the answer cuz Remuda answered it.. say what comes to your mind. heheh

[Whisperlily]

So she'll go to another funeral with similarly connected people and have a chance to see him again?

ETA: Man this moved fast. There were no answers when I typed that. ;)

[WTMindy]

I know I'm not normal. :-)

[Danestress]

I will not give you the answer to this for a few hours. I want to see the responses. It is very simple, do not over think it and put the first thing that comes to your mind.



I await your responses. You will be surprised at mine.


:lurk5::lol:

To lure him to another funeral? But does he know her sister? Or maybe it's not him in particular but just that apparently cute guys come to funerals?

[Pencil Pusher]

I will not give you the answer to this for a few hours. I want to see the responses. It is very simple, do not over think it and put the first thing that comes to your mind.



I await your responses. You will be surprised at mine.


:lurk5::lol:

Goodness! All I could think of was that the guy was her sister's dh, so she went home & made him "available."

But why she wouldn't have known her sis's dh, I don't know. I like Parisarah's answer *much* better, but I didn't think of it myself.:crying:

[GothicGyrl]

Alright, I'll tell you. For what it's worth, my answer was "because he was her sister's husband/boyfriend"..

That's significant because:

A normal person would answer as I did: he was her sister's husband/boyfriend and she wanted him for herself.

A psychopathic mind would answer "To see him again at the funeral" --but not because he's a Pastor, undertaker, funeral director, etc... when a psychopath is thinking, they really aren't. They don't see it in a normal POV (eg: she killed her sister because he was her sister's SO).. a psychopath only sees "He showed up at a funeral, if I create another one, he'll show up again".

So *I* am normal--ya'll is crazy peeps. :D

[Whisperlily]

My other answer would be: Because she's nuts. The two events don't have anything to do with each other. ;)

[Pencil Pusher]

I also want to say that this is doubly disturbing because I dreamed about GothicGyrl last night. Just your name. The 'y' in Gyrl was fighting of an 'i.':001_huh:

[Whisperlily]

No, I don't think that works. Because in a logical way, when you see this, you consider the fact that it could be her DH/SO, but being a SISTER, you automatically assume that you would not "forget" to exchange information... but wouldn't "need to" exchange information because you'd know where to find each other.

The way it's phrased pretty much implies that it is NOT someone her sister is involved with...

[GothicGyrl]

Did the "y" win? :D

And did you see my answer above--you my darling, are normal. You hit it spot on. ;)

[GothicGyrl]

No, I don't think that works. Because in a logical way, when you see this, you consider the fact that it could be her DH/SO, but being a SISTER, you automatically assume that you would not "forget" to exchange information... but wouldn't "need to" exchange information because you'd know where to find each other.

The way it's phrased pretty much implies that it is NOT someone her sister is involved with...
Ahh, but you are OVERthinking it, which I said not to do. The phrasing is meant to draw out your very first gut response. And a normal mind first response is "it was sister's dh/boyfriend". A non-normal response is "to create another funeral to see him again".

It's a psychoanalysis I am reading in my psychology text. It's meant like a Rorschach test--first response, don't think about it. Just say it.

[Whisperlily]

But when I read things, automatically things get ruled out. 2.3 seconds doesn't amount to overthinking. ;)

*shrug*

[GothicGyrl]

But when I read things, automatically things get ruled out. 2.3 seconds doesn't amount to overthinking. ;)

*shrug*
Then you would be considered something other than normal..At least for this test. If I did a Rorschach on you and you actually had to argue it outloud what it might be.....man, I would love to talk to you in person--your brain must be very similar to mine because I tend to overthink as well. And yes, 2.3 seconds IS over thinking it when you are psychoanalyzing someone. It needs to be an immediate answer.

That's how they tell the difference between someone truly crazy and someone playing crazy.. :D

[Tracey in TX]

hmmm, thought the sister was a figment of her imagination

[CookieMonster]

AAACK...so what does my response mean? What does it mean if you totally can't get past the fact that she seemingly offed her sister for no reason????

I'm not normal. I'm not psycho. What am I?

[MichelleWI]

So a truly crazy person thinks logically while a sort-of crazy person shoots from the hip, right or wrong? This line of thinking, me no likey. :tongue_smilie:

For the record, I was guessing he was the funeral director. She didn't know him, so needed a way to find him again.

[Colleen]

My first response was that she killed the first person (whose funeral she was attending) and killing her sister was just one more notch in her belt.

This must be a result of growing up in serial killer land...:001_huh:

[Pencil Pusher]

Did the "y" win? :D

And did you see my answer above--you my darling, are normal. You hit it spot on. ;)

No, actually, it kept me awake, it was such a struggle! If that makes any sense.:confused:

Anyway, I *did* see your post above, but I'm afraid dh would disagree. He thinks I'm a psychopath!;)

[Pencil Pusher]

No, I don't think that works. Because in a logical way, when you see this, you consider the fact that it could be her DH/SO, but being a SISTER, you automatically assume that you would not "forget" to exchange information... but wouldn't "need to" exchange information because you'd know where to find each other.

The way it's phrased pretty much implies that it is NOT someone her sister is involved with...

Nah, because if she's willing to kill her sis over a man, they're clearly not that close. Therefore, she might do it. (Did I just lose my "normal" stat? Oops.)

[Mrs. H.]

Wow, I'm totally normal. My first impulse was that it was her sister's husband. I'm really, really shocked that my answer was 'normal'.

Dare I ask dh and get his response? I'm a little afraid to try. ;)

[GothicGyrl]

So a truly crazy person thinks logically while a sort-of crazy person shoots from the hip, right or wrong? This line of thinking, me no likey. :tongue_smilie:

For the record, I was guessing he was the funeral director. She didn't know him, so needed a way to find him again.
No, you have it backwards.

A truly psychopathic person only sees one way to get what they want... A normal person applies what they would think would normally be the answer to a situation like this.

analogy, let me see... Ok--kid sees cookie jar on top of frig. KNOWS mom said "don't climb on counters" to get the jar; so kid logically thinks, "get a chair and reach up; not the same as climbing on the counters". It will still get him in trouble, but mom can't really argue with him because he's right--she said no counter climbing, not no climbing at all. This is logical thinking and perfectly normal.

Illogical thinking is "**** the consequences". So to use my example above--for this woman, she only sees "funeral = see man again.. how do I solve this? Murder someone". That's psychopathic. You are overthinking it if you assume the man is a Pastor, funeral director or something not said. The key to figureing it out is "she kills her sister. why?"

And a normal person would say "because it was sister's boyfriend/dh that she wanted". A non-normal would think "to get another funeral started to see him again".

:D

[Janet in WA]

No, you have it backwards.

A truly psychopathic person only sees one way to get what they want... A normal person applies what they would think would normally be the answer to a situation like this.

analogy, let me see... Ok--kid sees cookie jar on top of frig. KNOWS mom said "don't climb on counters" to get the jar; so kid logically thinks, "get a chair and reach up; not the same as climbing on the counters". It will still get him in trouble, but mom can't really argue with him because he's right--she said no counter climbing, not no climbing at all. This is logical thinking and perfectly normal.

Illogical thinking is "**** the consequences". So to use my example above--for this woman, she only sees "funeral = see man again.. how do I solve this? Murder someone". That's psychopathic. You are overthinking it if you assume the man is a Pastor, funeral director or something not said. The key to figureing it out is "she kills her sister. why?"

And a normal person would say "because it was sister's boyfriend/dh that she wanted". A non-normal would think "to get another funeral started to see him again".

:DI disagree strongly. A normal person who had seen brain teasers like this before (though not this exact one) would immediately recognize the (yes) predictable pattern of these puzzles and assess the whole thing at a glance. They would know better than to be tricked into just seeing one part of it going down the wrong path with the solution.

[Whisperlily]

This is a funny thread.

It's amazing the paths your thoughts take, isn't it?

I never said I was normal... :lol:

Toni, what's a Rorschach?

[Whisperlily]

I disagree strongly. A normal person who had seen brain teasers like this before (though not this exact one) would immediately recognize the (yes) predictable pattern of these puzzles and assess the whole thing at a glance. They would know better than to be tricked into just seeing one part of it going down the wrong path with the solution.


:iagree: And THIS forum? VERY likely to enjoy, and assess brain teasers quickly. :001_smile:

[j.griff]

I will not give you the answer to this for a few hours. I want to see the responses. It is very simple, do not over think it and put the first thing that comes to your mind.



I await your responses. You will be surprised at mine.


:lurk5::lol:

Because her sister is engaged to the man she met? IDK, LOL. I'm answering quickly and trying REALLY hard to NOT overthink this. :D

[j.griff]

ROFLOL, it appears that *I* am normal too. Wow, whooda thunkit? I'm so glad I followed the directions and didn't read ahead and "cheat". :D
Me, normal! HA! And GG, normal too, :D

[Gailmegan]

I had the same thought process as Whisperlily - if she needed his info he couldn't be attached to her sister, so he must have known the family and she assumed he would come to her sister's funeral. Now of course I do logic problems in my free time, so either I'm psychotic ;) or my brain is just wired to think in that logical way.

[Robin Hood]

OK - I cheated and looked at Remudamom's answer. I dont' handle suspense well. Ask another question. I promise I won't cheat. I want to know if I am normal or not.

[j.griff]

I realized that she "should" have the man's info if he's her sisters SO, BUT that was still the "first" thing that came to mind when I read it, so I followed the rules and posted it. :p

[Jenny in Atl]

My first response was that she killed the first person (whose funeral she was attending) and killing her sister was just one more notch in her belt.

This must be a result of growing up in serial killer land...:001_huh:

It's the lack of sun...
I thought much the same.. I guess that means I'm abnormal :leaving:

[GothicGyrl]

Toni, what's a Rorschach?

http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/rorschach.php
Commonly called "inkblot tests". Scroll down on the site to see some.

I disagree strongly. A normal person who had seen brain teasers like this before (though not this exact one) would immediately recognize the (yes) predictable pattern of these puzzles and assess the whole thing at a glance. They would know better than to be tricked into just seeing one part of it going down the wrong path with the solution.

But that's where the psychoanalysis comes in to play. If a shrink(general word cuz I hate typing that long word) is "shrinking" you for possible personality disorders, he will be able to tell whether you are "playing" him or are seriously answering. A TRUE psychopath can do both and a GOOD shrink can tell this. As one who has seen this in action (I was priviledged to be included on a conference call with Charles Manson), I can tell you that your answer is how a normal person would automatically react to this kind of test. If you sit down and he starts off showing you inkblots, he will know (if he is good) whether you know that this is a "test" and you are only answering how he wants you to answer (or what you think he wants you to say) or if you are truly answering with genuine answers. Manson was clearly able to do both--to switch back and forth easily--this is the sign of a true psychopath.

Someone who is normal, just cannot switch that easily, our normal brain doesn't think like this. So even a normal person who immediately recognizes that this is some kind of test and starts to answer based on that recognition, is not going to be able to "play" the shrink (in the manner he is looking for). He WILL be able to tell that you recognize this "game" and that you are only playing it based on that recognition and then he will redirect the game down a different path, thusly changing the pattern, causing you to rethink it.

And if you are true psychopath--this change will throw you off. If you are normal, it might throw you for a minute or two, but you will get back on track and start over. A true psychopath only sees one "path" to this game and stays on that path no matter how many times he's redirected because they can't redirect their brains. People like Manson have a hard time shifting. One of his biggest games he played was seeing how he could trip up the shrink. And he was often successful at it. But the shrink knew this going in to the interview, he knew that this was how Manson worked. So he went in prepared with several redirection tools..

So the game went:
ask the question
Manson answers
redirect him
Manson answer, asks his own question
trips shrink, shrink redirects
Manson answers, trips up
Shrink redirects again, asks new questions
Manson answers, thinking back on track, but in reality, he was tripped.

And on and on. But the key is that ALL of Manson's answers were the same. He couldn't get off that one path no matter how many times he was redirected or tripped up.

It was very fascinating to watch and hear.

[Jenny in Atl]

I gave Psych tests during my time at GSU to Delta Airlines hopefuls. The Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory, was one a series the job applicants had to take, to make sure they did not go "off" while in flight. These were timed to a point one had to answer and move on in a matter of seconds; no time to re-think if you kick cats or like the color green. It was a very stressful job, I did not last long...:willy_nilly:

[Deece in MN]

And most likely will be the killer of this one. ;)

My first thought was that she is demented.
Then I reread the "puzzle" (or whatever it is being called) and thought that she killed her sister to get to her sister's dh/so.

I didn't read the responses until I answered.

So, I guess on some level I am normal?!?

[nancypants]

She killed her sister in hopes that the mysterious stranger at the
funeral would also attend her sister's.

[nancypants]

I read this response somewhere and had to laugh, "Since when does a woman need a reason to do anything?!" :lol:

[elegantlion]

My gut reaction was she killed her sister, because it was her new boyfriend, one she had never met before. That does not prove my normality, however. :D I fell off the normal track a long time ago.

"I'm usually standing out in left field while everyone else is running the bases" that's my standard reply.

[Mekanamom]

My first thought: Because she is a homicidal maniac.

(I did so love the Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose episode of Xfiles...)

[Merry]

Because he's her sister's boyfriend and she wants him for herself.

[Karen sn]

Alright, I'll tell you. For what it's worth, my answer was "because he was her sister's husband/boyfriend"..

That's significant because:

A normal person would answer as I did: he was her sister's husband/boyfriend and she wanted him for herself.

A psychopathic mind would answer "To see him again at the funeral" --but not because he's a Pastor, undertaker, funeral director, etc... when a psychopath is thinking, they really aren't. They don't see it in a normal POV (eg: she killed her sister because he was her sister's SO).. a psychopath only sees "He showed up at a funeral, if I create another one, he'll show up again".

So *I* am normal--ya'll is crazy peeps. :D

Ummmm....sorry, any "reason" to kill a sister just to meet some stupid man that one "fell in love with" in one day....is psychopathic. Normal thinking- just does not apply in this "joke."

I am also going to assume that most of us have already met our sister's husbands if not before the wedding - at least AT the wedding. Most of us don't meet our brother in laws at some random funeral.

Am I normal?

[Lorna]

I thought she'd caught some nasty disease at the funeral and passed it onto her sister, thereby killing her. Too much time spend reading about the Plague me-thinks!

[Karen sn]

Ahh, but you are OVERthinking it, which I said not to do. The phrasing is meant to draw out your very first gut response. And a normal mind first response is "it was sister's dh/boyfriend". A non-normal response is "to create another funeral to see him again".

It's a psychoanalysis I am reading in my psychology text. It's meant like a Rorschach test--first response, don't think about it. Just say it.

To understand the killing of one's own sister requires illogical thinking from the get go. To ask a normal person a psychotic question is incorrect thinking to begin with.

If someone picked "to get her man" - they assume the sisters did not share lives or would have already KNOWN the men. Most of us know our sister's man.......and consider him our SISTER'S man.

The second answer would make MORE sense if you assumed that the sisters were half sisters who never met - therefore she could kill her with no regret to either A - steal her man or B - see the undertaker or preacher again or steal her man.

Either way - it's a nasty question and can not truly determine psychopathic tendancies because of the very sick nature of the question itself.
Who kills their own sister (or anyone for that matter) for a man?

I think psycopaths are in psychology quite frequently and come up with these questions themselves.

A better question could be used.

[Karen sn]

Ahh, but you are OVERthinking it, which I said not to do. The phrasing is meant to draw out your very first gut response. And a normal mind first response is "it was sister's dh/boyfriend". A non-normal response is "to create another funeral to see him again".

It's a psychoanalysis I am reading in my psychology text. It's meant like a Rorschach test--first response, don't think about it. Just say it.

Perhaps a nprmal response would be: Who the hell kills a sister for a man.

So often the logical answer is not supplied as an option or even analyzed when given.

[Karen sn]

I thought she'd caught some nasty disease at the funeral and passed it onto her sister, thereby killing her. Too much time spend reading about the Plague me-thinks!

AHA!!!!! A "normal" answer!

[Valerie(TX)]

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[pixelroper]

Is this forum just one big psych test?

and I couldn't play- been asked this before and proceeded to ask others. The only answer I ever got for the psychopath diagnosis was from an 11yo. :ohmy: She was listening to my conversation with her mother.

[Jenny in Florida]

. . . if I was completely unable to come up with any reason?

--Jenny

[GothicGyrl]

. . . if I was completely unable to come up with any reason?

--Jenny
Jenny--it means you are fine. :)

Karen, let's not go there. This question is a legit question asked in a legit psych book. However, it is an interesting question none the less. If you want to argue the validity of the answer, do so with the writers of the book--not me. The answer is valid and stands.

[EKS]

So she will be able to see him at another funeral!

[Karen sn]

. . . if I was completely unable to come up with any reason?

--Jenny

Then you are completely sane because you can not fathom the insane.
It's an insane act - that you can't answer it says to me that you are completely sane.

I do not think sane and normal are the same thing.

[j.griff]

I do not think sane and normal are the same thing.
Oookay, then what do they mean? Psychologically speaking, that is. How does one judge whether a person is "insane" and thus, abnormal- if there is no "sane" and thus "normal" control group? :)

[pixelroper]

"I do not think sane and normal are the same thing.":lol::lol:

I'm guessing "normal" is a statistical term and "sane" refers to learning from your mistakes..:lol: In today's society---I find that very apropo (or however ya speller it).