Let's bump Kelli and GothicGyrl up to two squares!

[j.griff]

And WTMindy too! We can do it, well- we can try. I'm all outa rep till this evening :D

[j.griff]

Sorry WTMindy, I am just a bit dyslexic at times :blush:

[WTMindy]

I'm getting pretty close. I promise to "pay you back"!!

[j.griff]

;)

[Holly IN]

so if you get 1000 post you get two squares?? How does that work?

Sorry I am not getting it.

HOlly

[j.griff]

If they receive enough positive rep, they will get two squares. So, I'm asking everyone to leave them some positive rep today. :D

[Colleen]

...I'm outta rep since I went on a sling-fest last night. But yeah, I wanna get those girls up there so I can be next in line.:D

[j.griff]

:D I was thinking we could just try to bump up 2-3 a day. I don't know how many reps a person gets to give out each day though, maybe we could each try to rep the top 10 who aren't two squares yet? Hmmmmmm...

[GothicGyrl]

I've got 85.. so that's going to take a LOT of bumping :D

[Cornerstone Classical]

I gave some to WTMindy yesterday9she's so helpful! ....I'll try again.

[Colleen]

That's why we've gotta focus on these gals who can dish out double scoops now.:D

[beansprouts]

I got Toni during one of the recent rep-fests. Says I hafta "spread it around" first...

[Kelli in TN]

That is very sweet, but really, the ultimate thrill is the new sticky on the How-To board.

I am experiencing some major ego problems right now due to that sticky. Just ask the people who got PM's from me today!!

[GothicGyrl]

Cornerstone--I appreciate the rep you gave, but it doesn't count :( cuz you've got under a 100 posts :(

But I still luv ya and I'll share the contents of my Booze cabinet with ya, if you wish. :D

[*anj*]

:D I was thinking we could just try to bump up 2-3 a day. I don't know how many reps a person gets to give out each day though, maybe we could each try to rep the top 10 who aren't two squares yet? Hmmmmmm...

Okay, since that would include me I'm all for it! :iagree::lol::hurray:
No, seriously. I already started doing it. But yeah, I'm pretty shameless so if ya'll wanna boost me, go for it.
It would take an awful lot of boosting though...

It's interesting when you consider the range of points between Numbers 1 and 10. :thumbup:

[GothicGyrl]

That is very sweet, but really, the ultimate thrill is the new sticky on the How-To board.

I am experiencing some major ego problems right now due to that sticky. Just ask the people who got PM's from me today!!
Now I'm curious :)

[beansprouts]

Cornerstone--I appreciate the rep you gave, but it doesn't count :( cuz you've got under a 100 posts :(

But I still luv ya and I'll share the contents of my Booze cabinet with ya, if you wish. :D

Actually I think those little grey squares count for half a point. I got two in a row recently and gained a full point.

[beansprouts]

That is very sweet, but really, the ultimate thrill is the new sticky on the How-To board.

I am experiencing some major ego problems right now due to that sticky. Just ask the people who got PM's from me today!!

You know I think I am with Kelli on this. If we just keep slingin around rep points to boost numbers they very quickly will cease to have value. I do appreciate the people who have given me rep points "just for fun", but the rep I earned by writing well thought out posts means the most to me.

And for that, Kelli, here is some honest rep :)

[Cornerstone Classical]

Shucks! I didn't know that. I have always given out rep when people respond to my posts (nicely). Ya'll will have to give me something to post about so I can work my #'s up:001_smile:! Do you increase your number of posts by each entry within the thread or just one for each thread. Does that make sense?:001_huh:

[*anj*]

Shucks! I didn't know that. I have always given out rep when people respond to my posts (nicely). Ya'll will have to give me something to post about so I can work my #'s up:001_smile:! Do you increase your number of posts by each entry within the thread or just one for each thread. Does that make sense?:001_huh:

Head over to the thread killer post and waste some time there.
You'll boost your number in no time at all!

[Holly IN]

ok I tried giving one to Gothicgirl because she left me a rep point. It says I have to spread some around before I can give her any. Does this mean she got too much already?

Holly

[j.griff]

It means that you have already repped her recently, and you need to rep others before you can rep her again- I don't know how many others you have to rep between reping the same person again. :D

[Cornerstone Classical]

What is/was the thread killer all about?

[j.griff]

The title of that thread is "do you ever feel like a..." or something VERY similar.
The first post goes on to read "thread killer?" meaning, do you ever feel like a thread "dies" after you post?

[Cornerstone Classical]

Man, not only do I feel like a tread killer. I feel like I've already killed a new thread I created. I post and no one even bothers to comment!!!:lol:
Hey, I think I'm killing this thread by hijacking it. SORRY! I'll leave and try to find that post!:D
Have a great week end!

[beansprouts]

Shucks! I didn't know that. I have always given out rep when people respond to my posts (nicely).

I think it is perfectly appropriate to give rep for quick & helpful responses :)

I still plan to give out points pretty liberally. I just want to give them for a reason so they mean something (IOW no more trading rep for keys to the booze cabinet...)

[Kelli in TN]

I think it is perfectly appropriate to give rep for quick & helpful responses :)

I agree. I give out rep to people who have a long, positive, encouraging posting history. Perhaps they have not said anything in particular that I wish to comment on, perhaps I just wish to acknowledge their continued contribution to all that is good about these forums. I usually just send a blank, anon. rep when I do this.

Sometimes I want to acknowledge a post in particular and then I make a specific comment. Sometimes I do this anon. and sometimes not.

I do not like to see it used as a popularity contest, it defeats the purpose of having it. That is ONE of the reasons I do not sign my name very often, I do not wish to get into the "one for you-one for me" mindset. I want it to mean something.

[j.griff]

You're right of course, Kelli. I was just thinking that I value you top 3 girls opinions alot in general, and I'd like to see you each have 2 squares. For *me*, it wouldn't be just meaninglessly bumping you up in "popularity", but just boosting you up to where *I* think you all should be. Hope that makes sense.
And I think that if there are posters who do not appreciate the insight you've all shared here, then they aren't likely to blindly boost your rep anyway, KWIM? But, that's JMHO

[Cornerstone Classical]

I have been going on and off to your blog for a year now. I wanted to email you but I didn't see where that was available on your blog. I went to your church website and wanted to make a (positive) comment...

[GothicGyrl]

While I see what you are saying Kelli--I gotta say, it's just for fun. Especially since someone can fling negative rep without signing a name to it (which is akin to the anon posts we all used to hate on the old board)...Until that's fixed, well --rep is just for fun (AND for good reason) to me.

Sorry.. Now let's back to having some fun...;)

[WTMindy]

I agree. I give out rep to people who have a long, positive, encouraging posting history. Perhaps they have not said anything in particular that I wish to comment on, perhaps I just wish to acknowledge their continued contribution to all that is good about these forums. I usually just send a blank, anon. rep when I do this.

Sometimes I want to acknowledge a post in particular and then I make a specific comment. Sometimes I do this anon. and sometimes not.

I do not like to see it used as a popularity contest, it defeats the purpose of having it. That is ONE of the reasons I do not sign my name very often, I do not wish to get into the "one for you-one for me" mindset. I want it to mean something.
I think you guys are nobler than me, cuz' I kinda just want to get to two squares! :blush: Actually, I just think of it as good clean fun. Part of my goal here is to be encouraging to people, so I try and use up all my rep every day tossing out the rep willy nilly. :willy_nilly: Many times it is for a post that makes me think, often for a post that makes me laugh (how do you think Doran got to 2 squares?), sometimes it is for people who need prayer, and sometimes just because.

I'm getting closer....only 8 more to go. Insert shameless begging and pleading here.

[Crissy]

I'm getting closer....only 8 more to go. Insert shameless begging and pleading here.


What's the magic number?

[GothicGyrl]

I think you guys are nobler than me, cuz' I kinda just want to get to two squares! :blush: Actually, I just think of it as good clean fun. Part of my goal here is to be encouraging to people, so I try and use up all my rep every day tossing out the rep willy nilly. :willy_nilly: Many times it is for a post that makes me think, often for a post that makes me laugh (how do you think Doran got to 2 squares?), sometimes it is for people who need prayer, and sometimes just because.

I'm getting closer....only 8 more to go. Insert shameless begging and pleading here.
I'll stand next to WTMindy and beg/plead.. I've no shame in doing so :)

Magic Number is 100.. I've got 89.. ;D

[Needleroozer]

That is very sweet, but really, the ultimate thrill is the new sticky on the How-To board.

I am experiencing some major ego problems right now due to that sticky. Just ask the people who got PM's from me today!!

Ok, I hope y'all don't think I am a stick in the mud, because I too, love to check my rep points and want two squares too, but in light of the info in the sticky you mentioned, and the reasons Heather gave for rep points in the first place, should we be working so hard to bump people up just because we can? Or should we really be giving them for thoughtful/insighful/humourous/etc. posts?

If newbies come on the boards, and use the rep points as Heather suggested- to know who is a reputable seller, or who can be trusted to give out helpful info and support, etc. will we have skewed things by giving points just to bump folks up?

Now that I have asked this, I am going to go find some fun, useful posts from the folks mentioned and sling some rep myself!:tongue_smilie:

[Kelli in TN]

Ok, I hope y'all don't think I am a stick in the mud, because I too, love to check my rep points and want two squares too, but in light of the info in the sticky you mentioned, and the reasons Heather gave for rep points in the first place, :

Psst. You do know why that sticky got me so stoked, right? You read it all the way through, right?

After being called mean by one of my kids, finding that sticky was just the affirmation I needed today!!!:thumbup1:

[Needleroozer]

Psst. You do know why that sticky got me so stoked, right? You read it all the way through, right?

After being called mean by one of my kids, finding that sticky was just the affirmation I needed today!!!:thumbup1:

Yes, I read it all the way through, and I loved your well-spoken thoughts. I cannot believe your kids called you mean, though, lol.

[GothicGyrl]

Except, Needle, I've said this before and it bears repeating-- I snorted at that little sticky because these rep points are entirely useless--on here and on the swap boards. Let's look at this...

On Here:
People give rep just because they can. It's fun. We all have fun. No cliqs, no high school "neener neener".. it's all in good fun..

OR

People give rep to only those they think deserve it. Which means--using ONLY me as an example--I'd never get repped because there are a lot of two faced people on here and a lot who don't think I deserve it. Of course, I'm not the only one feeling this though.

AND

People can still fling neg rep around like it's some badge of honor to do so anonymously. On the old board, even if people venomously disagreed with me, all it took was ONE anonymous post for everyone to come together and ask them to show themselves and stop being cowards. On here, they get away with it--very double standard actually and NO, I do not believe we have trolls.

On the Swap Boards:

This has already been discussed--what if someone describes a for sale item to the T, leaving nothing out, transaction went smooth and everyone seems happy--yet they've got a neg rep from that buyer--why? Because they can. It is so arbitrary how the neg rep gets flung that for a person who does not deserve that neg rep, is going to get it and be seen as someone not to do business with--all because neg rep can be left anonymously.

The solution is one of two: Either ditch the rep feature all together OR start making people leave their names for the rep (because in theory, the rep points can work, but by leaving your name, this forces other readers to make their own decisions based on how they wish to buy/sell to a person or how they speak to a person in a thread)

So until they start requiring anon rep flingers to leave their name, I will see it as nothing but fun. Bump me up to 2 squares or not.. This is just for fun.

Anonymous posting is cowardly. Negative rep flinging anonymously, doubly so.

[Doran]

...Many times it is for a post that makes me think, often for a post that makes me laugh (how do you think Doran got to 2 squares?)...


Okay, so Mindy loves me for my humor, not my brain. I can handle that, I think. Wait, no, I don't think. Or, I don't make Mindy think. I just make her laugh. And, that's something, right.


:lol:

Doran

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

Okay, so Mindy loves me for my humor, not my brain. I can handle that, I think. Wait, no, I don't think. Or, I don't make Mindy think. I just make her laugh. And, that's something, right.


:lol:

Doran

A "thinky" post that makes her laugh. :hat:

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

What's the magic number?

100

[Kelli in TN]

Yes, I read it all the way through, and I loved your well-spoken thoughts. I cannot believe your kids called you mean, though, lol.

Well, yes, I was called mean today. There was this ugly incident involving trash that needed taking out and a cordless computer mouse that I stuck in my pocket and refused to give back until the trash was gone.

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

Well, yes, I was called mean today. There was this ugly incident involving trash that needed taking out and a cordless computer mouse that I stuck in my pocket and refused to give back until the trash was gone.

*gasp!*

You DISCIPLINED you child? I am astonished. Why would you do such a mean, mean thing? What are you trying to do, help them grow up to be responsible adults or something?

Sheesh.

[GothicGyrl]

Your own sticky states:
Reasons to give bad rep:
Negative experience on the Sale & Swap board (as a buyer or a seller)
Someone displaying a pattern of “bad” behavior (thread hijacking, combativeness, aggression, negativity)
Outright offensive posts (name-calling, racial slurs, etc)

Just to prove my point above, I find my little fun fest killjoyed by a moron who so obviously cannot read. Too bad I don't know who posted it, because I'd love to share the love with you, but cowards don't sign their name, do they? Yeah, you read that right, someone broke the rules JUST posted and went ahead and neg rep'd me because they didn't like what I said above--forget the fact that I wasn't breaking any rules... (and you can't say I was name-calling either, since I have no idea who I'm calling names, can you?)

Someone rep me.. bump me up to tick off these cowardly morons. OR SWB better start making people play by her rules--talk about "cliq fest"...

[Kelli in TN]

I have been going on and off to your blog for a year now. I wanted to email you but I didn't see where that was available on your blog. I went to your church website and wanted to make a (positive) comment...

Thank you!

Now I have to go to my church's website to see what makes you want to make a positive comment. I am always thinking "Goodness, can we gussy up this website a bit? And why are the dates for VBS and camp up yet? And who are those people in the banner? Aren't our church members cute enough, do we have to use stock photos of strangers?" But that is just the weird way my brain works.

As you can see by my posting history, I visit if off and on too! More off than on!!!!:D

[beansprouts]

Originally Posted by Kelli in TN http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?p=104319#post104319)
I agree. I give out rep to people who have a long, positive, encouraging posting history. Perhaps they have not said anything in particular that I wish to comment on, perhaps I just wish to acknowledge their continued contribution to all that is good about these forums. I usually just send a blank, anon. rep when I do this.


Actually I repped WTMindy today for that exact reason.

It isn't hard to find a reason to give rep points if you are looking for one :D

[Cornerstone Classical]

I'll pm you if you want to know....

BTW, how do you quote just a line or two of a post? Everytime I do it quotes the whole thing??!!

[beansprouts]

Someone rep me.. bump me up to tick off these cowardly morons. OR SWB better start making people play by her rules--talk about "cliq fest"...

Totally lame.

I wish I hadn't wasted your rep point on that bottle of rum (I still have some, BTW...)

[Cornerstone Classical]

Can you not some how look up the IP address from the anon. neg. repper? I know some knew how to do that on the old board with trolls and such. Can you not do the same here on this forum?

[Needleroozer]

Darn it, I had a long post all typed up, and it got eaten or something. This will be the short version.

:iagree:Basically, this is the way I felt BEFORE I read the sticky, but I guess my inner do-good-have-to-follow-all-the-rules self was thinking overtime after I read it. You make good points- this IS a very subjective system! I guess I will go back to giving rep because I can, because it is a fun game, and when I read posts that are particularly funny or inspirational (usually both!) to me.

Also- I wish I was as articulate and well-spoken as y'all are, sigh. Not only do I not feel like I have enough to say to post so often or affect people so strongly (Negatively or positively- you make people think, and that is a good thing!), I just have the story I am not a good writer, and no one wants to listen to me anyhoo. :confused: I really should give that one up.

And by the by, I love it when you call me Needle. :001_wub:

[*anj*]

BTW, how do you quote just a line or two of a post? Everytime I do it quotes the whole thing??!!

Just go in and delete the words that you don't want. For instance, when I clicked "quote" for your post here, your entire post showed up, but I just cut out the part that I wasn't replying to.

Easy Peasy!:)

[beansprouts]

I'll pm you if you want to know....

BTW, how do you quote just a line or two of a post? Everytime I do it quotes the whole thing??!!

You can highlight and delete the part you don't want to quote. You can also copy/paste a line from another post, highlight it and click the "quote" icon (it looks like a comic strip bubble that shows somebody saying something.)

[Needleroozer]

Darn it, I had a long post all typed up, and it got eaten or something. This will be the short version.

:iagree:Basically, this is the way I felt BEFORE I read the sticky, but I guess my inner do-good-have-to-follow-all-the-rules self was thinking overtime after I read it. You make good points- this IS a very subjective system! I guess I will go back to giving rep because I can, because it is a fun game, and when I read posts that are particularly funny or inspirational (usually both!) to me.

Also- I wish I was as articulate and well-spoken as y'all are, sigh. Not only do I not feel like I have enough to say to post so often or affect people so strongly (Negatively or positively- you make people think, and that is a good thing!), I just have the story I am not a good writer, and no one wants to listen to me anyhoo. :confused: I really should give that one up.

And by the by, I love it when you call me Needle. :001_wub:

Oops. That was supposed to have Toni's post quoted in it. I really shouldn't even try to post when I am not feeling well.

[Kelli in TN]

I'll pm you if you want to know....

BTW, how do you quote just a line or two of a post? Everytime I do it quotes the whole thing??!!

I just hit quote and then erase what I don't need.

I will add you to my buddy list so you can PM me! I will go do that now!

[Cornerstone Classical]

Thank you for showing me that! You're so helpful! I think you deserve some pos. rep.:hurray:

[beansprouts]

And by the by, I love it when you call me Needle. :001_wub:

I have been wondering where you got your name. Was it from the book A Porcupine Named Fluffy?

Can I give rep points for interesting screen names?

I do agree it is fun to sling rep :)

[Needleroozer]

I have been wondering where you got your name. Was it from the book A Porcupine Named Fluffy?

Can I give rep points for interesting screen names?



Yep! and Yep!
g;)

[*anj*]

Thank you for showing me that! You're so helpful! I think you deserve some pos. rep.:hurray:

You're welcome!!
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/happy093.gif (http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/%5Burl=http://www.freesmileys.org%5D%5Bimg%5Dhttp://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/happy093.gif%5B/img%5D%5B/url%5D)

[Kelli in TN]

Can I give rep points for interesting screen names?

I do agree it is fun to sling rep :)


I got rep for my avatar once. I gave rep to someone just because I liked their introduction! I did it all anon, so they don't know I did it.

Last night I got some rep for my leopard print pajama pants.

[WTMindy]

Okay, so Mindy loves me for my humor, not my brain. I can handle that, I think. Wait, no, I don't think. Or, I don't make Mindy think. I just make her laugh. And, that's something, right.


:lol:

Doran
Let me rephrase that.....Some posts make me think (why do you think Doran has 2 squares), some post make me laugh, etc....

Baby, you got it ALL!! Brains, humor, beauty, 2 squares, etc!!!!

[GothicGyrl]

Totally lame.

I wish I hadn't wasted your rep point on that bottle of rum (I still have some, BTW...)

Beanie, dah'lin, what's so totally lame about the truth? :) Sorry you feel that way, but it is. It is a subjective thing now and meaningless, especially if no one is going to follow the rules she took the time to so painstakingly type out for them to follow.

And you can keep the rum. I am not an indian giver by any means. ;)

(wait, did I misread what you said? I just got a clue ...gah, I think I need more coffee--did you mean my post was totally lame, or what I had posted was totally lame? and if you hadn't rep'd me for rum, you would have rep'd me now?---Ok, I definitely need more coffee... ugh..and I have to work in an hour..)

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

Let me rephrase that.....Some posts make me think (why do you think Doran has 2 squares), some post make me laugh, etc....

Baby, you got it ALL!! Brains, humor, beauty, 2 squares, etc!!!!

Sycophant. :glare:


:iagree:

[j.griff]

I personally love your posts Needle ;)

[j.griff]

I apologize to the neg. rep leaver for offending by starting this thread. I also stated in another post in this thread that *I* personally value these 3 gal's posts, and *I* would like to see them have 2 squares, because *I* think they are wise and worthy of wearing 2 squares. If others disagree, then please don't rep them just because I suggested it- think for yourself. :D

[WTMindy]

Also- I wish I was as articulate and well-spoken as y'all are, sigh. Not only do I not feel like I have enough to say to post so often or affect people so strongly (Negatively or positively- you make people think, and that is a good thing!), I just have the story I am not a good writer, and no one wants to listen to me anyhoo. :confused: I really should give that one up.

And by the by, I love it when you call me Needle. :001_wub:

Needle, you are adored by so many!!!! We love our LB!!

[j.griff]

sending virtual thermos of coffee for GG, so she can function at work tonight. :D

[Colleen]

If we just keep slingin around rep points to boost numbers they very quickly will cease to have value.

As the system currently stands, the rep points are fun (or can be), but meaningless. In theory, they could be valuable on the sale board, if others could see the rep and it was accompanied by useful comments and identifying info. But let's say I make a sale and receive a positive rep point from a satisfied buyer. Who knows that? No one. And on the flip side, maybe I rip someone off and they give me negative rep. Does that serve to "warn" others? Nope ~ not unless the dissatisfied buyer actually posts about the problem. But the rep on its own is meaningless.

Even if the rep points are used according to the admin's preference, there's nothing particularly helpful about the system. Actually, the most helpful thing about it for me has been that it's made me laugh ~ the funny comments people leave when they positive rep me, I mean. So, okay, as far as silly fun is concerned, it's serving a purpose. But the fact that people can leave anon negative rep really detracts from any value.

[GothicGyrl]

I apologize to the neg. rep leaver for offending by starting this thread. I also stated in another post in this thread that *I* personally value these 3 gal's posts, and *I* would like to see them have 2 squares, because *I* think they are wise and worthy of wearing 2 squares. If others disagree, then please don't rep them just because I suggested it- think for yourself. :D
Did you get one too?

hahaha, keep going whomever you are--keep proving my point, please... I'm sorry j.griff... it's apparant the rules only apply to some people and not all.

[GothicGyrl]

As the system currently stands, the rep points are fun (or can be), but meaningless. In theory, they could be valuable on the sale board, if others could see the rep and it was accompanied by useful comments and identifying info. But let's say I make a sale and receive a positive rep point from a satisfied buyer. Who knows that? No one. And on the flip side, maybe I rip someone off and they give me negative rep. Does that serve to "warn" others? Nope ~ not unless the dissatisfied buyer actually posts about the problem. But the rep on its own is meaningless.

Even if the rep points are used according to the admin's preference, there's nothing particularly helpful about the system. Actually, the most helpful thing about it for me has been that it's made me laugh ~ the funny comments people leave when they positive rep me, I mean. So, okay, as far as silly fun is concerned, it's serving a purpose. But the fact that people can leave anon negative rep really detracts from any value.
Now, wait Colleen-be careful--I said the same thing and got poo-pooed for saying it. So watch out, you might be "flung" soon as well.

:D

[j.griff]

Oh, that's okay, I'm used to that. :D
I do genuinely apologize for offending though, even if I disagree with their opinion.

[Colleen]

hahaha, keep going whomever you are--keep proving my point, please...

Yep. The fact that people can leave anon rep is the #1 thing that renders the system meaningless.

[WTMindy]

As the system currently stands, the rep points are fun (or can be), but meaningless. In theory, they could be valuable on the sale board, if others could see the rep and it was accompanied by useful comments and identifying info. .

Yup, fun but meaningless. I have had more laughs over the rep posts than any others, I think!

[Kelli in TN]

. But the fact that people can leave anon negative rep really detracts from any value.


I just sort of use a negative rep as an opportunity to give myself an attitude check. I know I too easily become emotional about issues and get to running my mouth. Er...keyboard. I speak more boldly here than I ever would in real life and I sort of appreciate that people can tell me to straighten up privately. If I were to get reamed in front of the whole board I would be humiliated.

Which is sort of sad, that I would be humiliated in front a message board.

Do I need a life or what???:D

[Jill, OK]

...as far as the selling, it's not like Amazon, where you can see the percentage of positive transactions. (And I absolutely use it when I purchase on the Amazon marketplace thingy!)

Toni has always talked about the amount of negative rep she gets...but she's on the first page, with all the other "High Rep" folks! So, either it doesn't count for very much against what positive rep you get, or she's just gotten so much positive, that the negative is overshadowed. (In other words, no one would know she's had so much negative rep if she didn't tell us).

I was chuckling the other day, over *finally* breaking 200 posts (some of you guys have 600! 1000!)...and now I learn that the number of posts counts towards your rep giving power. I can understand the thought process behind that...but I have to say, simply being a prolific poster doesn't equal respectability. (I know I'm not saying anything anyone doesn't already know...I'm just trying to bump up my post numbers, I guess. :) )

Anyway...I just think it's a kind of a fun feature (I'd be lying if I said I didn't harbor hopes of making the "First Page" someday)...but the ability to give negative rep, anonymously, just doesn't seem to serve any purpose aside from letting folks know you disagree with them.

[Colleen]

I just sort of use a negative rep as an opportunity to give myself an attitude check.

But if I genuinely thought you needed an attitude check, would giving you anon negative rep be a worthy means of sending that message? I could send you a private message. Or I could at least have the balls not to "hide" behind the negative rep. But how is it genuinely helpful if I just anonymously strike out at you?

I do see what you're saying, and I commend you for your humility. The other day someone neg repped me when I expressed disagreement, for the second time, about the thread merging. This person (anon, of course) said my whining was getting old. Knowing that I can indeed be a whiner, and that it can indeed get old;), I did take five seconds to consider his/her comments. But since I adamently disapprove of the willy-nilly thread merging, I couldn't agree with the assessment offered. Still, it was food for thought.

But many, many other people have mentioned getting negative rep that completely mystified them. They wonder if these red squares are coming from folks who just disagree ~ and why disagreement has to be veiled in secrecy; or whether they've unintentionally offended someone; or...what. I honestly feel bad for the people who get hurt like this.

[j.griff]

WTMindy and Kelli! Yay!!!!!! You have two squares now! Come on folks, GG is so close. :D

[Needleroozer]

Needle, you are adored by so many!!!! We love our LB!!

Well, Thank you! I'd give you rep for that, but I gotta share the love more before they let me give you more.

I still think that writing is not my true gift. Spreading paint on a canvas I can do (as long as you don't expect it to look like anything), but don't ask me to write an essay, lol.:001_smile:

[Kelli in TN]

But if I genuinely thought you needed an attitude check, would giving you anon negative rep be a worthy means of sending that message? I could send you a private message. Or I could at least have the balls not to "hide" behind the negative rep. But how is it genuinely helpful if I just anonymously strike out at you?

I do see what you're saying, and I commend you for your humility. The other day someone neg repped me when I expressed disagreement, for the second time, about the thread merging. This person (anon, of course) said my whining was getting old. Knowing that I can indeed be a whiner, and that it can indeed get old;), I did take five seconds to consider his/her comments. But since I adamently disapprove of the willy-nilly thread merging, I couldn't agree with the assessment offered. Still, it was food for thought.

But many, many other people have mentioned getting negative rep that completely mystified them. They wonder if these red squares are coming from folks who just disagree ~ and why disagreement has to be veiled in secrecy; or whether they've unintentionally offended someone; or...what. I honestly feel bad for the people who get hurt like this.


Well, people cannot pm me unless I add them to my buddy list. As far as it being anon, I think I would rather not know. If you told me that I am rude and signed your name, my feelings would be hurt. If it came from someone who generally disagrees with me, I would assume they were just looking for something to make trouble about.

It doesn't sting if I don't know who it is. I just get the chance to check myself and move on.:auto:

[Needleroozer]

(I'd be lying if I said I didn't harbor hopes of making the "First Page" someday)

You'll make it, Jill! Let me just go give ya' some rep love now. Just doin' my part ot help out.:)

[beansprouts]

(wait, did I misread what you said? I just got a clue ...gah, I think I need more coffee--did you mean my post was totally lame, or what I had posted was totally lame? and if you hadn't rep'd me for rum, you would have rep'd me now?---Ok, I definitely need more coffee... ugh..and I have to work in an hour..)

I meant it was totally lame that somebody gave you negative rep with no apparent reason or explanation.

And I'm not stingy, I am more than willing to share Toni's rum :D

I just brewed some coffee - would you like a cup?

[Needleroozer]

As the system currently stands, the rep points are fun (or can be), but meaningless. .

Thanks, ladies for talking this one through with me. I am going back to relaxing about this and slinging just for the fun of it. I guess the more I give out, the more I might get, too. Not that it is tit for tat, but that there is more chance of scoring a goal if I play the game. :001_smile:

[GothicGyrl]

Well, Toni is off to work anyway, but she just wants to say:

I FINALLY GET TO SEE DURAN DURAN!!!! i JUST GOT MY TICKET!!!

that is all... and if someone neg reps me for **that** , well.. I'm off to work. ;)

[Cornerstone Classical]

I've had 1 bad rep but the next day it was gone. I thought maybe the moderator deleted it because in the comment section it said "Baa! Baa!"
Do you think that is possible?

[Kelli in TN]

I've had 1 bad rep but the next day it was gone. I thought maybe the moderator deleted it because in the comment section it said "Baa! Baa!"
Do you think that is possible?


That is possible, or could it have just moved down because you only get to have 5 at a time.

Which is kind of sad. There have been some comments I would have loved to keep!!!

[Colleen]

Well, people cannot pm me unless I add them to my buddy list.

I've never created a "buddy list" and I've received private messages from all sorts of folks.

As far as it being anon, I think I would rather not know. If you told me that I am rude and signed your name, my feelings would be hurt. If it came from someone who generally disagrees with me, I would assume they were just looking for something to make trouble about. It doesn't sting if I don't know who it is. I just get the chance to check myself and move on.

I understand. My point was that I wouldn't simply say, "You're rude" and sign my name. I'd offer constructive criticism if I thought it were warranted, and in my opinion, anon negative rep isn't constructive ~ especially when the recipient literally has no clue why it was extended. I'm thinking, for example, of someone on the K-8 board wondering aloud why she received negative rep when she simply answered a scheduling question. She was trying to help someone disagreed...about what? and why? How was she to know? Maybe that wouldn't hurt you, Kelli, but it would at least bother you because you'd undoubtedly wonder what message this person wanted to send you.

Okay. 'nuff said. Time for Friday afternoon art and music time.:001_smile:

[Kelli in TN]

I've never created a "buddy list" and I've received private messages from all sorts of folks.



I understand. My point was that I wouldn't simply say, "You're rude" and sign my name. I'd offer constructive criticism if I thought it were warranted, and in my opinion, anon negative rep isn't constructive ~ especially when the recipient literally has no clue why it was extended. I'm thinking, for example, of someone on the K-8 board wondering aloud why she received negative rep when she simply answered a scheduling question. She was trying to help someone disagreed...about what? and why? How was she to know? Maybe that wouldn't hurt you, Kelli, but it would at least bother you because you'd undoubtedly wonder what message this person wanted to send you.

Okay. 'nuff said. Time for Friday afternoon art and music time.:001_smile:


Oh, it can definately be misused. I can still see its usefulness, but it is not a perfect system by any stretch.

But that is enough for me too. Dh just called and is on his way home. I have got to go make it look as if I have done something better with my afternoon than play on the computer!!!!

[beansprouts]

...as far as the selling, it's not like Amazon, where you can see the percentage of positive transactions. (And I absolutely use it when I purchase on the Amazon marketplace thingy!)

And with websites like Amazon, you have to post a comment. As a buyer, I find the comments even more useful then the rating.

I see your point...

[Cornerstone Classical]

[quote=Kelli in TN;104755]That is possible, or could it have just moved down because you only get to have 5 at a time.

I only had 2 one good and the one bad. So, it could not have been moved...

[beansprouts]

But that is enough for me too. Dh just called and is on his way home. I have got to go make it look as if I have done something better with my afternoon than play on the computer!!!!

There's something better than playing on the computer???

[KidsHappen]

Congrats! :hurray:

[Needleroozer]

Well, Toni is off to work anyway, but she just wants to say:

I FINALLY GET TO SEE DURAN DURAN!!!! i JUST GOT MY TICKET!!!

that is all... and if someone neg reps me for **that** , well.. I'm off to work. ;)

:cheers2:Cool! Congrats! Have a great evening at work. Thanks for your post clearing this up for me. Reading your articulate thoughts helped me put mine in perspective.

[WTMindy]

Well, Toni is off to work anyway, but she just wants to say:

I FINALLY GET TO SEE DURAN DURAN!!!! i JUST GOT MY TICKET!!!

that is all... and if someone neg reps me for **that** , well.. I'm off to work. ;)

(like about 25 years late! http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/winking/winking0070.gif (http://www.ganja.co.uk))

I'm glad you got your ticket, and I'll push you over the top tomorrow with some double rep!

[Kelli in TN]

WTMindy and Kelli! Yay!!!!!! :D


Well, thanks.

I just sort of wish I had earned it. You know, for saying witty or intelligent things. Or for encouraging people. Or even for my leopard print pajama pants.

[beansprouts]

Well, thanks.

I just sort of wish I had earned it. You know, for saying witty or intelligent things. Or for encouraging people. Or even for my leopard print pajama pants.

You did earn it, Kelli, that's what got you to the point where a few extra could put you over the top. ;)

[j.griff]

Well, thanks.

I just sort of wish I had earned it. You know, for saying witty or intelligent things. Or for encouraging people. Or even for my leopard print pajama pants.

:( :crying: :sad: :001_unsure::nopity:;)

[Tammy]

I wonder how many bad rep points you need to actually give you a red square under your name when you post....because...like you said....they are meaningless if only the user can see them.

[Amy loves Bud]

You have earned it, Kelli. And I appreciate you making the effort to honor the board owners wishes. I'd rep you again but I can't.

[Kelli in TN]

:( :crying: :sad: :001_unsure::nopity:;)


Snort!! Okay, Okay, I get it, I will stop being a whiner.

But I do sort of wish I'd earned it.

[j.griff]

:crying::crying::crying::crying::nopity:

[beansprouts]

I wonder how many bad rep points you need to actually give you a red square under your name when you post....because...like you said....they are meaningless if only the user can see them.

I agree. From a buyer's standpoint (if that is the purpose) it is most helpful to know if a person has recieved a bad rating, how long ago and why. With this system you really have no way of knowing.

[Kelli in TN]

:crying::crying::crying::crying::nopity:

Okay, Okay, Okay!!!!:bigear: I am listening already!!!











But I sort of wish.....nah....I am not going to say it......

[j.griff]

:lol::rofl::smilielol5::thumbup::thumbup:

[Heather]

Hi Everyone -

I'm going to respond to a couple of comments here, then this thread is closed.



As the system currently stands, the rep points are fun (or can be), but meaningless. In theory, they could be valuable on the sale board, if others could see the rep and it was accompanied by useful comments and identifying info. But let's say I make a sale and receive a positive rep point from a satisfied buyer. Who knows that? No one. And on the flip side, maybe I rip someone off and they give me negative rep. Does that serve to "warn" others? Nope ~ not unless the dissatisfied buyer actually posts about the problem. But the rep on its own is meaningless.



We know the system isn't perfect. We publish books, we don't design and create message boards. ;) We have asked people to leave comments on the thread of the product they purchased. As more people use the boards and become more familiar with how things work, they can search through the Sale & Swap listings and read the threads/posts of the person they are thinking of doing a deal with. And as more upgrades are available for the forum software, more opportunities may exists to beef this up.



Yep. The fact that people can leave anon rep is the #1 thing that renders the system meaningless.

So what would happen if someone who left a neg rep left their name? What would y'all do? Flame them openly on the boards? I can't see that doing anything but creating hostility. That's not what we're trying to do. As Kelli has said, it is a way to check your attitude. If you don't agree with the neg, fine. Ignore it. With anything like this, 1 bad rep here or there isn't going to make a difference in the overall picture. It is a cumulation of the points over the long term that is the real measure.

I just sort of use a negative rep as an opportunity to give myself an attitude check. I know I too easily become emotional about issues and get to running my mouth. Er...keyboard. I speak more boldly here than I ever would in real life and I sort of appreciate that people can tell me to straighten up privately. If I were to get reamed in front of the whole board I would be humiliated.


Agreed.



But if I genuinely thought you needed an attitude check, would giving you anon negative rep be a worthy means of sending that message? I could send you a private message. Or I could at least have the balls not to "hide" behind the negative rep. But how is it genuinely helpful if I just anonymously strike out at you?

If someone wants call you (general "you") out on something without fear of repercussions, the rep system is the way to do it. If they want to call you out AND engage in dialog (AND you are set to accept PMs from everyone) they are more than welcome to do that.


But many, many other people have mentioned getting negative rep that completely mystified them. They wonder if these red squares are coming from folks who just disagree ~ and why disagreement has to be veiled in secrecy; or whether they've unintentionally offended someone; or...what. I honestly feel bad for the people who get hurt like this.

And the sticky says that the admins will remove trivial or hurtful reps.

I've had 1 bad rep but the next day it was gone. I thought maybe the moderator deleted it because in the comment section it said "Baa! Baa!"
Do you think that is possible?

Yes, we will delete a neg rep that appears trivial or outright hurtful. We had some people who felt the need to give neg reps for no apparent reason. We talked to them and deleted the reps in question.

And with websites like Amazon, you have to post a comment. As a buyer, I find the comments even more useful then the rating.

I see your point...

Yes, Amazon is great. :thumbup: (Are you signed up for Amazon Prime?? Free 2 day shipping ROCKS!) Amazon also has an entire team of developers coding away on their website. Comments and feedback as essential to Amazon's business. We, on the other hand, write books for homeschoolers. This forum is merely a service we offer. It's a fun service, but definitely not the primary service of PHP. Our IT department (Jedi Bob!) has a day job that pays the bills and a family who requires his attention. He works on the forums when he can, but they aren't on the top of his list.


I agree. From a buyer's standpoint (if that is the purpose) it is most helpful to know if a person has recieved a bad rating, how long ago and why. With this system you really have no way of knowing.

Yes and no. Since the admins can see the reps, when we notice a bunch of them, we can choose to do things like ban the seller from listing on the Sale & Swap board.

We know the system isn't perfect. No system is. As we said in the sticky, we are trying to create a safe and friendly place where homeschoolers--whether or not they use our products (http://www.peacehillpress.com):D--can come and chat. We don't care which style style, religion, or type of pajamas your wear. Everyone is welcome.

And I do have to say: I'm relatively new here at PHP, but I've been amazed at the kindness and wisdom you ladies (and men!) so openly share with each other--newbies and regulars. You guys are really great!

Now, I'm off to work on some of the many projects on my desk right now. I'm sure you guys can all go find something far more interesting to talk about.

Have a good weekend!