PDA

View Full Version : Cross Post -- 13yos hitting wall w/ Algebra -- WWYD?


Linda in NE
03-05-2008, 02:40 PM
My 13yos has always been very good understanding "the big picture" in math. He's intuitive and can very often solve a problem in his head using mathematical reasoning without using Algebra or touching a pencil and paper. Suddenly, however, it seems that he's hit a wall.

Around Thanksgiving we began a unit on polynomials, mostly adding, subtracting, and multiplying them. He did all right on the individual lessons, but when he came to the unit test, he failed, missing around half the questions. We backed up and reviewed the material in a general way, did more practice questions, and he seemed to gain understanding. However, when he took another unit test, he failed again with about the same score. SO, then we went through each lesson, doing the whole unit over again. He passed the unit this time at about 80%. That's what I require for him to move on, so anything less would have been another fail.

We're now at the end of the next unit -- factoring polynomials -- and the pattern seems to be repeating itself. He did fine on the individual lessons, missing a few homework questions, but doing okay after I re-taught and/or re-explained the material. He took the unit test on Friday and missed more than half. To make matters worse, he left a chunk of the questions blank which required him to factor several polynomial expressions. He told me he didn't know how to do those questions. THIS IS WHAT THE WHOLE CHAPTER WAS ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Sorry to yell.)

We're going to go over the test today, and I need to make a decision about where we go from here. I'm thinking of putting this program on the back burner and approaching Algebra from a whole new angle. I'm looking at Life of Fred Algebra. Maybe the departure from the textbook approach will jar something loose in his brain, making him suddenly see the light.

Is this a good idea? What, if anything else, would you recommend? I'm very good at Algebra and always thought I was a good teacher, but this is driving me crazy. I don't understand how he can not understand at this point.

NOTE: He is going through some teen/hormonal issues right now. Maybe it's making him more dense than usual. Taking this into account, how does that effect your advice to me?

Thanks.

Jann in TX
03-05-2008, 04:32 PM
When students come to this part of Algebra their ability to organize their problems--on paper and in their heads--becomes critical.

I'm currently working with several students going through these same concepts. Much of it comes down to BASIC 5th grade math--and fractions. Did your student really understand the HOW and WHY of fractions--or did they just follow a pattern?

Somewhere along the line your son missed some important information--a tiny piece or two--and they just can't put a finger on what it is.

I promise you this is NOT a curriculum problem. This is conceptual.

What I suggest is finding an experienced math tutor to work with your son for a few sessions--it should not take more than one or two to cover this material. The tutor should be able to ask your son a few questions--observe him work out a problem and then they should be able to note any flaw(s) in his logic and then help correct it by modeling and/or reteaching.

The issues your son has with factoring are (most likely) due once again to tiny pieces that he has missed. It is sooooo easy to drop a negative here and there... but there are also ways to check your work when you factor...

Feel free to e-mail me if you would like some more suggestions or if you would like me to evaluate some of his work (missed problems). I be happy to give you some advice on what to go over with him. I also have a neat method of factoring trinomials (quadratics) that makes them so much easier to do.

snikrepj @ gmail.com

Barb F. PA in AZ
03-05-2008, 05:14 PM
ALEKS. This situation is what ALEKS is tailor made for. I don't like it as a stand alone curriculum for the very reasons that make it such great review or intro to tougher material. The student can test out of the material he's mastered and go back through and catch the things he may have missed the first time around. It's cheaper than a tutor and probably more efficient. I know that sometimes when my kids hit a wall in higher math, it's helpful to take a different tack for a while and let things marinate. Sometimes a little leap in unrelated brain growth brought on by simply maturing is all it takes. Let him take a break for a month or two, work on ALEKS (use the homeschooling trial: http://www.aleks.com/webform/c25), and you may be shocked at how things fall into place after just a few short weeks.

Barb

Staci in CT
03-05-2008, 05:56 PM
I completely agree with Barb F. This is a perfect ALEKS situation. The program is the ideal complement to textbook math from Algebra I right through Pre-Calc. Best of all, kids seem to enjoy it and it gives mom a break.

Staci