Wilson and Wilson Fundations

[jg_puppy]

I am trying to figure out the difference between these two programs. Has anyone looked at both and can help me figure out the differences?

Thanks.
Jan

[Laurie4b]

I am trying to figure out the difference between these two programs. Has anyone looked at both and can help me figure out the differences?

Thanks.
Jan

Fundations is not remedial. It is written to be taught to a whole class. The Wilson program is remedial, and though it can be used in a small group on the same level, it is most ideal to use it one-on-one. Wilson was also written for adult learners, so the stories have more adult-oriented content (not "adult" as in inappropriate, but adult as in stories about work, etc.)

[jg_puppy]

Thank you that helps. I don't think either of them are quite what I am looking for.

Jan

[momtotkbb]

Fundations is the program for K-3rd graders. It is used by both regular classrooms and used in Sp Ed. The Wilson Lang is designed to be used by 4th graders up through adults for those with learning disabilities. Both are O-G based.

I've used both in 1-1 situations. I loved the Fundations program and found it very beneficial.

[jg_puppy]

Fundations is the program for K-3rd graders. It is used by both regular classrooms and used in Sp Ed. The Wilson Lang is designed to be used by 4th graders up through adults for those with learning disabilities. Both are O-G based.

I've used both in 1-1 situations. I loved the Fundations program and found it very beneficial.

Thank you. I really like what I see of the Fundations program, but it is probably out of my budget at the moment. I am looking for something for my son who is 6.5. We are currently using a combination of OPGTTR and ETC. He is slowly making progress with this combination, but he really struggles with it. I think he would do better with a multi-sensory approach so I am looking for either something else for him or some ways to add more O-G type activities to what we are already using.

Jan

[Laurie4b]

Thank you. I really like what I see of the Fundations program, but it is probably out of my budget at the moment. I am looking for something for my son who is 6.5. We are currently using a combination of OPGTTR and ETC. He is slowly making progress with this combination, but he really struggles with it. I think he would do better with a multi-sensory approach so I am looking for either something else for him or some ways to add more O-G type activities to what we are already using.

Jan

There is not a lot of (any?) research that the multisensory part of OG helps. It might, but it's not a part of the program backed by research.

Does your child have phonemic awareness issues? Neither of those programs deals with that and it's the most common cause (80% or more) of struggles with reading.

[jg_puppy]

There is not a lot of (any?) research that the multisensory part of OG helps. It might, but it's not a part of the program backed by research.

Does your child have phonemic awareness issues? Neither of those programs deals with that and it's the most common cause (80% or more) of struggles with reading.

He is pretty good with phonemic awareness as far as I can tell. He is in speech therapy for articulation and he speech therapist has mentioned that he has great phonemic awareness. We are using Earobics which he thinks is really fun. I think Earobics is helping him with listening comprehension.

He has known the sounds of most letters for about a year, but he has trouble making many of the sounds correctly. He finally clicked with blending about two or three months ago. He can read CVC words with an a in the middle- cat, bat, ham, etc. but he does still struggle with them at times. He will sometimes read a word great on one page and then when he sees the same word on the next page he has to look at it for a long time like he is looking at the word for the first time. He gets it, but it is still work for him. I don't really think he has a learning disability, but I do think he might do better with something that moves a little slower than what we are using.

I am sure part of it is the fact that he is also the typical active young boy which is why I was thinking that something muliti-sensory might help. I am trying to figure out if an O-G approach or maybe ABeCeDarian would work better than the combination we are using. He does still need a lot of work on handwriting.

He is the total opposite at math. He really enjoys and gets math concepts very easily.

Something else that I think is a tiny bit off is that he confuses things that I don't think he should at 6.5. He says things like "maybe a little sooner" when he really means maybe later. He mixes up the words hot and cold. I know that he knows what all of these words mean. I would think that was normal for a younger child, but I would have expected him to have outgrown that by now. Maybe I am just used to my dd who has always been very verbal.

Jan

[Shay]

My 6.5 yo little boy has so many similarities to your son. He also had good phonemic awareness, knew the sounds, etc. My ds was also in speech therapy for articulation (almost done :)). Like your son, he is also very good with math and concepts. He was/is sort of "lop-sided" when you compare his reading and math abilities.

I had also tried to use OPGR with him and it move MUCH too quickly for him. Actually any primer moved too quickly. He knew the sounds, it was just blending them fluently that seemed to bog him down. As you mentioned having similar feelings about your ds, I didn't have any gut feeling that there was a learning disability.

Ottakkee on this forum recommended the I See Sam readers for him and that's what really got him over the hump. They move slowly, allowing the child to have lots of practice blending until it came fluently. Where OPG has a few lessons on CVC words, the Sam books have 50 books to practice this skill. My ds is almost an independent (but still tender) reader now.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy ABeCedarian for your ds. Lots of people use the Sam books alongside ABeCe.

I like the Sam books from 3rsPlus, and they are a little less expensive ($20 per set).

http://www.3rsplus.com/

HtH,
Shay

[jg_puppy]

My 6.5 yo little boy has so many similarities to your son. He also had good phonemic awareness, knew the sounds, etc. My ds was also in speech therapy for articulation (almost done :)). Like your son, he is also very good with math and concepts. He was/is sort of "lop-sided" when you compare his reading and math abilities.

I had also tried to use OPGR with him and it move MUCH too quickly for him. Actually any primer moved too quickly. He knew the sounds, it was just blending them fluently that seemed to bog him down. As you mentioned having similar feelings about your ds, I didn't have any gut feeling that there was a learning disability.

Ottakkee on this forum recommended the I See Sam readers for him and that's what really got him over the hump. They move slowly, allowing the child to have lots of practice blending until it came fluently. Where OPG has a few lessons on CVC words, the Sam books have 50 books to practice this skill. My ds is almost an independent (but still tender) reader now.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy ABeCedarian for your ds. Lots of people use the Sam books alongside ABeCe.

I like the Sam books from 3rsPlus, and they are a little less expensive ($20 per set).

http://www.3rsplus.com/

HtH,
Shay

Thank you. This helps a lot. Your son does sound very much like my son. I think the Sam books look great.

Jan