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> <channel><title>Comments on: Because we need alternatives</title> <atom:link href="http://www.welltrainedmind.com/conferences/because-we-need-alternatives/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.welltrainedmind.com/conferences/because-we-need-alternatives/</link> <description>A Guide to Classical Education at Home</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 01:59:55 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator> <item><title>By: Renee</title><link>http://www.welltrainedmind.com/conferences/because-we-need-alternatives/comment-page-1/#comment-214</link> <dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:07:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.welltrainedmind.com/?p=2069#comment-214</guid> <description>I just went and looked at our homeschool convention for 2009 to see what kind of workshops were offered last year (we did not live here then.)  It seems that while most of the workshops are academically oriented (yeah!) they are all given by vendors.  I wonder if the vendors give generic talks or if they are product specific - it is hard to tell from the titles.I have been homeschooling for 7 years now and I don&#039;t feel I need homeschooling support per se.  I&#039;d rather focus my attention on effective teaching rather than curriculum specific discussion.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just went and looked at our homeschool convention for 2009 to see what kind of workshops were offered last year (we did not live here then.)  It seems that while most of the workshops are academically oriented (yeah!) they are all given by vendors.  I wonder if the vendors give generic talks or if they are product specific &#8211; it is hard to tell from the titles.</p><p>I have been homeschooling for 7 years now and I don&#8217;t feel I need homeschooling support per se.  I&#8217;d rather focus my attention on effective teaching rather than curriculum specific discussion.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chanda</title><link>http://www.welltrainedmind.com/conferences/because-we-need-alternatives/comment-page-1/#comment-211</link> <dc:creator>Chanda</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 13:47:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.welltrainedmind.com/?p=2069#comment-211</guid> <description>The best conference I ever attended was the online one that you spoke at hosted by www.classicalhomeschooling.org. Real speakers, real content, convenient and free. It was amazing!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best conference I ever attended was the online one that you spoke at hosted by <a
href="http://www.classicalhomeschooling.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.classicalhomeschooling.org</a>. Real speakers, real content, convenient and free. It was amazing!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jenny Wells</title><link>http://www.welltrainedmind.com/conferences/because-we-need-alternatives/comment-page-1/#comment-203</link> <dc:creator>Jenny Wells</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:58:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.welltrainedmind.com/?p=2069#comment-203</guid> <description>As I prepare for my eighth-year of homeschooling and my first year with a high-schooler, I agree with this need and have felt its lack acutely, choosing to not attend my local conferences for the last several years. I would add, however, that as much as I need academic training...we  need to consider our METHODS of communication/teacher-training. Oh, to have a workshop format over a lecture, for example! I also long for lecturers (as Susan was at the last conference I attended several years ago in Sacramento) that are knowledgeable AND able to communicate effectively as speakers...inspiring and personable. Teaching CONTENT is critical...but teachers/mentors also need to be able to deliver their message well...and if I was part of planning/implementing a different alternative, I would spend energy on the how as much as the what...not at the price of content, but to enhance it and inspire learners who can in-turn inspire their learners. Just wanted to add an artist&#039;s perspective. :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I prepare for my eighth-year of homeschooling and my first year with a high-schooler, I agree with this need and have felt its lack acutely, choosing to not attend my local conferences for the last several years. I would add, however, that as much as I need academic training&#8230;we  need to consider our METHODS of communication/teacher-training. Oh, to have a workshop format over a lecture, for example! I also long for lecturers (as Susan was at the last conference I attended several years ago in Sacramento) that are knowledgeable AND able to communicate effectively as speakers&#8230;inspiring and personable. Teaching CONTENT is critical&#8230;but teachers/mentors also need to be able to deliver their message well&#8230;and if I was part of planning/implementing a different alternative, I would spend energy on the how as much as the what&#8230;not at the price of content, but to enhance it and inspire learners who can in-turn inspire their learners. Just wanted to add an artist&#8217;s perspective. :)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Theresa</title><link>http://www.welltrainedmind.com/conferences/because-we-need-alternatives/comment-page-1/#comment-199</link> <dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:37:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.welltrainedmind.com/?p=2069#comment-199</guid> <description>I am only in the beginning years of homeschooling and have not yet attended a conference, but this is what I, personally, would like to see:1. A speaker on the forecast of future high demand jobs and required skill sets.  It is obvious from this recession that our children will need to have multiple skill sets and experiences from various career fields to fall back on rather than relying on that one college degree to carry them through life.2. Speakers from both community colleges and public universities on the probable normal college life in the future.  Our local community college (I am a faculty member) has discussed how the enormous growth rate of the college, limited funding sources to the college, the need for students to work at least part time and economic constraints of the student and family has lead to phenomenal growth in distance education.  An administrator and I even agreed our 1st graders, upon completing high school, will probably go in their room, turn on their laptop and complete their coursework.  Students will probably only go to campus to attend labs, meetings, presentations, or group study.  As parents we want our children to have the same college experience we did, but that may not be realistic considering economics and our children&#039;s comfort with technology we are still trying to learn.3. Teachers of all levels of art, music and theatre.  Since these programs are usually electives and under the constant threat of being cut due to budget difficulties, these teachers may happily want to network with homeschooling parents.  The thought of teaching these subjects scares me the most because it requires creativity which for me was crushed by many, many years of math and science training.  I also would need a workshop on how to set up a basic art kit with plenty of supplies to make most art projects or crafts for holidays.  Again, please see statement about my creativity level being zero.If I meet anyone willing to do the above workshops, I will happily forward the contact information to interested persons.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am only in the beginning years of homeschooling and have not yet attended a conference, but this is what I, personally, would like to see:</p><p>1. A speaker on the forecast of future high demand jobs and required skill sets.  It is obvious from this recession that our children will need to have multiple skill sets and experiences from various career fields to fall back on rather than relying on that one college degree to carry them through life.</p><p>2. Speakers from both community colleges and public universities on the probable normal college life in the future.  Our local community college (I am a faculty member) has discussed how the enormous growth rate of the college, limited funding sources to the college, the need for students to work at least part time and economic constraints of the student and family has lead to phenomenal growth in distance education.  An administrator and I even agreed our 1st graders, upon completing high school, will probably go in their room, turn on their laptop and complete their coursework.  Students will probably only go to campus to attend labs, meetings, presentations, or group study.  As parents we want our children to have the same college experience we did, but that may not be realistic considering economics and our children&#8217;s comfort with technology we are still trying to learn.</p><p>3. Teachers of all levels of art, music and theatre.  Since these programs are usually electives and under the constant threat of being cut due to budget difficulties, these teachers may happily want to network with homeschooling parents.  The thought of teaching these subjects scares me the most because it requires creativity which for me was crushed by many, many years of math and science training.  I also would need a workshop on how to set up a basic art kit with plenty of supplies to make most art projects or crafts for holidays.  Again, please see statement about my creativity level being zero.</p><p>If I meet anyone willing to do the above workshops, I will happily forward the contact information to interested persons.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Beth</title><link>http://www.welltrainedmind.com/conferences/because-we-need-alternatives/comment-page-1/#comment-194</link> <dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:59:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.welltrainedmind.com/?p=2069#comment-194</guid> <description>Another PerspectiveYes, there is a need for alternatives to conferences focused primarily on faith and parenting. Susan is right in saying that veteran home educators could make these types of conferences happen (and this would be a good thing). Susan is even more spot on to point out that we need to pay attention to teaching. Of course we do, and not only at conferences. After all, this is what we (should) get up and do each day with our children.I think that in this generation, the emphasis among home educators will (hopefully) shift from curriculum/philosophy to the nuts-and-bolts of excellent teaching—the deeply satisfying knowledge and skill of how to possess and pass on knowledge and skill. It’s about time that the spotlight does shine on teaching, because too much credit for learning is given to mere curriculum and materials. There’s not enough discussion of what it means for us as parent-teachers to truly know our course of instruction and to teach (tutor) our children well in academics at home. Are we, as a community, past the point of believing that learning comes in a box? Can a “teacher” who doesn’t know the subject at all truly be a teacher of it?I’ve heard and read a lot of what I consider to be flippant, cavalier answers to this issue, such as, “Oh, I can learn (insert subject) right along with them,” or “I don’t need to know it, I just need to resource it properly,” or “We love and live and learn along the way…. We don’t need to master subjects, we’re just living life and loving to learn….” Some of these answers are valid, in a way and to a point, but they also miss the point—that, as we are parents, so are we teachers, if we take on the responsibility of teaching our children at home.Parenting is hard work, but conventions for home educators should not focus on parenting. Teaching is hard work, too, and we need the most help there. I, personally, don’t want someone telling me how to parent my children. Doing just fine there, thank you very much! What I do want is to learn the content of the subjects I will be teaching a few years down the road, how to teach those subjects, how to evaluate my students’ grasp of them, and how to record their learning in such a way that someone else can see where my students are academically.Most professions require and provide continuing education. My husband works in a medical profession, and he is always learning and improving his skills. I am a home educator – a teacher – who is also always learning and improving my skills. Our three daughters think it is perfectly normal for their father to be studying neurons and spinal cord anatomy and evoked potential responses… and for their mother to be studying history and Latin and how to teach elementary math. 
Susan’s discussion rightly points out the lack of opportunities for home educators to participate in workshops that develop their knowledge and skills as teachers. While my husband can go to any number of seminars for his profession, I am hard-pressed to find a workshop to help me in my role. Yes, we do need alternatives.However, let’s not overlook the alternatives we already do have at our disposal, nor lament the fact that one solution—a line-up of academically-focused conferences—may not be immediately available to us. We are responsible for making ourselves into better teachers, with or without the perfect conference.Probably all of us have access to a library; we can read, and learn to read better. We can read Great Books and make our own timelines. We can read excellent books on teaching. We can listen to music and study music theory (Alfred’s Essentials of Music Theory). We can study how to teach math (Elementary Mathematics for Teachers, Parker &amp; Baldridge; Knowing and Teaching Elementary Mathematics, Ma). We might be able to join a book discussion group, or form our own group and work through The Well-Educated Mind. We might work our way through a lecture course from The Teaching Company, or another similar video course. We might be able to enroll in a college, correspondence, or online course. We might study teaching methods in other countries, to compare and contrast how education is done in another context (The Teaching Gap, Stigler)—and to see how much of a difference good teaching makes!I’m not saying that we have to do it all, or know everything before we begin. That would be an impossible demand. What I am saying is that for too long, in my opinion, the homeschool mantra has been “line up the right set of resources and plug the kids in.” Never mind the need for a teacher. Susan is right to say that we need workshops devoted to teaching—because, ultimately, we need to be committed to becoming excellent teachers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Perspective</p><p>Yes, there is a need for alternatives to conferences focused primarily on faith and parenting. Susan is right in saying that veteran home educators could make these types of conferences happen (and this would be a good thing). Susan is even more spot on to point out that we need to pay attention to teaching. Of course we do, and not only at conferences. After all, this is what we (should) get up and do each day with our children.</p><p>I think that in this generation, the emphasis among home educators will (hopefully) shift from curriculum/philosophy to the nuts-and-bolts of excellent teaching—the deeply satisfying knowledge and skill of how to possess and pass on knowledge and skill. It’s about time that the spotlight does shine on teaching, because too much credit for learning is given to mere curriculum and materials. There’s not enough discussion of what it means for us as parent-teachers to truly know our course of instruction and to teach (tutor) our children well in academics at home. Are we, as a community, past the point of believing that learning comes in a box? Can a “teacher” who doesn’t know the subject at all truly be a teacher of it?</p><p>I’ve heard and read a lot of what I consider to be flippant, cavalier answers to this issue, such as, “Oh, I can learn (insert subject) right along with them,” or “I don’t need to know it, I just need to resource it properly,” or “We love and live and learn along the way…. We don’t need to master subjects, we’re just living life and loving to learn….” Some of these answers are valid, in a way and to a point, but they also miss the point—that, as we are parents, so are we teachers, if we take on the responsibility of teaching our children at home.</p><p>Parenting is hard work, but conventions for home educators should not focus on parenting. Teaching is hard work, too, and we need the most help there. I, personally, don’t want someone telling me how to parent my children. Doing just fine there, thank you very much! What I do want is to learn the content of the subjects I will be teaching a few years down the road, how to teach those subjects, how to evaluate my students’ grasp of them, and how to record their learning in such a way that someone else can see where my students are academically.</p><p>Most professions require and provide continuing education. My husband works in a medical profession, and he is always learning and improving his skills. I am a home educator – a teacher – who is also always learning and improving my skills. Our three daughters think it is perfectly normal for their father to be studying neurons and spinal cord anatomy and evoked potential responses… and for their mother to be studying history and Latin and how to teach elementary math. <br
/> Susan’s discussion rightly points out the lack of opportunities for home educators to participate in workshops that develop their knowledge and skills as teachers. While my husband can go to any number of seminars for his profession, I am hard-pressed to find a workshop to help me in my role. Yes, we do need alternatives.</p><p>However, let’s not overlook the alternatives we already do have at our disposal, nor lament the fact that one solution—a line-up of academically-focused conferences—may not be immediately available to us. We are responsible for making ourselves into better teachers, with or without the perfect conference.</p><p>Probably all of us have access to a library; we can read, and learn to read better. We can read Great Books and make our own timelines. We can read excellent books on teaching. We can listen to music and study music theory (Alfred’s Essentials of Music Theory). We can study how to teach math (Elementary Mathematics for Teachers, Parker &amp; Baldridge; Knowing and Teaching Elementary Mathematics, Ma). We might be able to join a book discussion group, or form our own group and work through The Well-Educated Mind. We might work our way through a lecture course from The Teaching Company, or another similar video course. We might be able to enroll in a college, correspondence, or online course. We might study teaching methods in other countries, to compare and contrast how education is done in another context (The Teaching Gap, Stigler)—and to see how much of a difference good teaching makes!</p><p>I’m not saying that we have to do it all, or know everything before we begin. That would be an impossible demand. What I am saying is that for too long, in my opinion, the homeschool mantra has been “line up the right set of resources and plug the kids in.” Never mind the need for a teacher. Susan is right to say that we need workshops devoted to teaching—because, ultimately, we need to be committed to becoming excellent teachers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sandra</title><link>http://www.welltrainedmind.com/conferences/because-we-need-alternatives/comment-page-1/#comment-182</link> <dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:03:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.welltrainedmind.com/?p=2069#comment-182</guid> <description>How about the pool of experienced homeschooling parents in a given region? They could be found in local co-ops or support groups.We should begin to have more of these folks around now that there are a generation or two who have completed homeschooling.Tap into local Christian schools. Their teachers might be available for seminars or even as support in an ongoing way. Also retired teachers for their subjects.Admissions counselors from area colleges can teach about the college application process too.In fact this last matter, college admissions, is to me as valuable as instruction on direct teaching of subjects. There should be homeschool conventions for colleges to come and meet our kids, and a team of admissions experts available to teach about the process.Sandra</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the pool of experienced homeschooling parents in a given region? They could be found in local co-ops or support groups.</p><p>We should begin to have more of these folks around now that there are a generation or two who have completed homeschooling.</p><p>Tap into local Christian schools. Their teachers might be available for seminars or even as support in an ongoing way. Also retired teachers for their subjects.</p><p>Admissions counselors from area colleges can teach about the college application process too.</p><p>In fact this last matter, college admissions, is to me as valuable as instruction on direct teaching of subjects. There should be homeschool conventions for colleges to come and meet our kids, and a team of admissions experts available to teach about the process.</p><p>Sandra</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: LV</title><link>http://www.welltrainedmind.com/conferences/because-we-need-alternatives/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link> <dc:creator>LV</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:28:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.welltrainedmind.com/?p=2069#comment-181</guid> <description>Very interesting idea - as a first-year homeschooler (7- and 5-year olds) I look to the future and am discouraged about the dearth of academic speakers/events/etc. out there. Even in our academically-focused co-op, I find that the tendency (from parents and the national organization) is to focus on and push doctrine in a grammar-style manner to dialectic and rhetoric aged kids...leaving them few tools to understand and defend their beliefs when out &#039;in the world.&#039;But I digress...besides community colleges, where else would one look for the type of speakers we are talking about? Any suggestions out there?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting idea &#8211; as a first-year homeschooler (7- and 5-year olds) I look to the future and am discouraged about the dearth of academic speakers/events/etc. out there. Even in our academically-focused co-op, I find that the tendency (from parents and the national organization) is to focus on and push doctrine in a grammar-style manner to dialectic and rhetoric aged kids&#8230;leaving them few tools to understand and defend their beliefs when out &#8216;in the world.&#8217;</p><p>But I digress&#8230;besides community colleges, where else would one look for the type of speakers we are talking about? Any suggestions out there?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stephanie</title><link>http://www.welltrainedmind.com/conferences/because-we-need-alternatives/comment-page-1/#comment-179</link> <dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:15:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.welltrainedmind.com/?p=2069#comment-179</guid> <description>Another resounding agreement with this post.  I have been so discouraged by the offerings of my state&#039;s conference that I haven&#039;t bothered to attend.  I would be so grateful for a local conference that focused on academic subjects.  I am contemplating a trip to Cincinnati this year!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another resounding agreement with this post.  I have been so discouraged by the offerings of my state&#8217;s conference that I haven&#8217;t bothered to attend.  I would be so grateful for a local conference that focused on academic subjects.  I am contemplating a trip to Cincinnati this year!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Janie</title><link>http://www.welltrainedmind.com/conferences/because-we-need-alternatives/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link> <dc:creator>Janie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:21:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.welltrainedmind.com/?p=2069#comment-176</guid> <description>I agree. As a former home educator (4 kids through high school graduation, 20 years) and now as a middle school teacher in a private school, I&#039;ve seen both sides of the convention fence. Both the glitzy 4-5 star hotel convention center  and moderately conservative venues lean toward cheerleader or religious seminars rather than the nitty-gritty aspects of teaching.We all need a cheerleader session once in a while, but the push-comes-to-shove when you need direction about actual teaching.In my recent years of classroom teaching, our most productive times have been when we have learned how to teach particulars more effectively and learning the best methods of test review, etc. Rather than seminars covering why-when-where, teachers (whether home or classroom) *need* the what and how seminars.I agree with the previous poster who said that many conference seminars favor vendor-led seminars. I&#039;ve also offered and been turned down.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. As a former home educator (4 kids through high school graduation, 20 years) and now as a middle school teacher in a private school, I&#8217;ve seen both sides of the convention fence. Both the glitzy 4-5 star hotel convention center  and moderately conservative venues lean toward cheerleader or religious seminars rather than the nitty-gritty aspects of teaching.We all need a cheerleader session once in a while, but the push-comes-to-shove when you need direction about actual teaching.</p><p>In my recent years of classroom teaching, our most productive times have been when we have learned how to teach particulars more effectively and learning the best methods of test review, etc. Rather than seminars covering why-when-where, teachers (whether home or classroom) *need* the what and how seminars.</p><p>I agree with the previous poster who said that many conference seminars favor vendor-led seminars. I&#8217;ve also offered and been turned down.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sandra</title><link>http://www.welltrainedmind.com/conferences/because-we-need-alternatives/comment-page-1/#comment-175</link> <dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:24:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.welltrainedmind.com/?p=2069#comment-175</guid> <description>Me either.  We live in an area that has difficulty bringing in any big conferences.  I live here ten years, and we have had one.  It was too poorly attended to justify them coming again.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me either.  We live in an area that has difficulty bringing in any big conferences.  I live here ten years, and we have had one.  It was too poorly attended to justify them coming again.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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